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Post by potatojudge on May 7, 2023 22:04:18 GMT -5
A midframe 475 is a bucket list gun for me, and the Special version would be plenty.
For that 45-70, for a few hundred JES will rebore and rechamber that for you. He did a No 3 from 223 to 357 Max for me. I haven't seen anyone dissatisfied with his work.
But then it wouldn't be a JRH built pair, so do what makes you happy. Regardless, I've found the Blackhawk and No1/3 to be a nice companion set. Considering doing another pair in 500 Linebaugh.
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Post by gnappi on May 8, 2023 10:34:50 GMT -5
Just saw this So a five shot on a mid frame......why not a 480? Just because I can understand ....... But the special can be done on a full-size frame as a 6 shot 475.......on a Ruger Yeah, why not a .480 downloaded and the .480 already has a few suitable launching platforms.
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Post by Encore64 on May 9, 2023 7:06:55 GMT -5
On a Midframe Flattop, the 480 Ruger makes a lot of sense. Factory brass and dies makes life simple.
Ruger made a couple runs of Number 1s in 475 Linebaugh/480 Ruger. Both 22" and 20" Barrels were built. I believe the 22" is the rarest of the bunch.
I bought one when first introduced to go with my BFR 475 and JRH 480 Ruger.
Ditto on Ruger 1s in 44 Magnum with 20" Barrels only.
I've lobbied for a Number 1 in 454 Casull. But, nothing so far...
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Post by Fowler on May 9, 2023 8:21:05 GMT -5
Just saw this So a five shot on a mid frame......why not a 480? Just because I can understand ....... But the special can be done on a full-size frame as a 6 shot 475.......on a Ruger Yeah, why not a .480 downloaded and the .480 already has a few suitable launching platforms. It was designed to be a 480 that could be put into a S&W N framed gun. The fear of the full length case is people would push the envelope too hard for the thin cylinder and frame on that platform. Im not sure a factory 480 round could safely be run in a N frame gun. Its like Linebaugh built a few 6 shot 475 Linebaugh guns but only if he knew the guy and that they wouldn't push them too hard, basically to warm but not even max 480 power levels, 425gr bullet at 1100fps sort of a range. The problem is people are people, they will push things, or get bored with then and sell them to other who will deliberately or unintentionally push them too far and problems would arise if left a 480. Or so the theory my fuzzy memory is recalling goes...
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Post by Encore64 on May 9, 2023 8:33:07 GMT -5
Well, when you chamber for a factory cartridge, I do believe the gun should be able to safely hold factory ammo of the given chambering.
The Midframe Flattop 480 Ruger probably has as much steel left as a 500 JRH or Linebaugh does when chambered in a Full Sized Blackhawk.
The 475 Special is a great idea in a N-Frame. Separate data can be developed specifically for that cartridge/gun combo.
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Post by gnappi on May 9, 2023 10:29:23 GMT -5
It seems like an awfully large expense for an N frame. Don't get me wrong, I have several N frames and other than creating a slightly larger hole I can't see the cost / benefit over a 625-5 in 45 Colt or for that matter an over the counter.480 Alaskan or SRH with chopped down 475/480 cases to meet whatever ballistic goal you had in mind. YMMV
Egads, I just realized I sound like a gun savvy ex-wife :-)
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Post by Encore64 on May 9, 2023 10:46:07 GMT -5
The truth is a 5-Shot or Oversized Cylinder 6-Shot Blackhawk 45 Colt would do most anything a revolver hunter could ask.
The reality is, if you're looking for logic, you're at the wrong place.
I have the utmost respect for gunsmiths and customers who think out of the box and do their own thing.
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Post by bigbrowndog on May 9, 2023 10:50:40 GMT -5
Gnappi, if you’re gonna keep interjecting logic on this board when it comes to custom gun “wants” you don’t get it. Besides the SW should be lighter, than the Ruger and it’s a fine custom gun rather than a stock factory offering that anybody can go buy.
All of this in jest by the way………..
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Post by gnappi on May 9, 2023 12:12:02 GMT -5
Gnappi, if you’re gonna keep interjecting logic on this board when it comes to custom gun “wants” you don’t get it. Besides the SW should be lighter, than the Ruger and it’s a fine custom gun rather than a stock factory offering that anybody can go buy. All of this in jest by the way……….. Trapr I agree, I don't get it, neither did my ex-wife.
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Post by Encore64 on May 9, 2023 18:29:46 GMT -5
Another great thing about this forum. We cover everything from Heritage Arms to the finest customs.
I've raised many eyebrows with some of my off the wall customs. You know you're getting wacky when the gunsmith replies to your request with "could you repeat that"...
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Post by shorty500 on May 9, 2023 20:21:18 GMT -5
Truth be told- if unless one was really seriously dedicated to say big African game- then either the Cooper or the Special cartridges should scratch the itch for a .475 bore revolver. I expect based on publishings the .475 Wildey would suffice also. The Linebaugh has a purpose- to allow higher pressures/velocities than the older .500 with similar bullets with more readily available cases originslly
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Post by Encore64 on May 9, 2023 20:34:48 GMT -5
If memory serves me right, the 475 Linebaugh was introduced due to Winchester's plan to discontinue 348 Win Brass that was used to make 500 Linebaugh.
The 45-70 Brass used to make 475 Linebaugh was much more easily obtained...
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Post by bigbrowndog on May 9, 2023 22:16:35 GMT -5
That’s the way I recall it. I wonder if the 500L would have come to be if the 475L had been first??
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Post by iwsbull on May 10, 2023 11:39:11 GMT -5
That’s the way I recall it. I wonder if the 500L would have come to be if the 475L had been first?? Trapr It would probably have came along but it might have been named differently.
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Post by bigbrowndog on May 10, 2023 13:34:28 GMT -5
I don’t know about that,…..somewhere in that time period ATF made a “weapons of destruction” statement that anything over .50 was part of. Which is why 50ae is .50 and not the original .510 that it was. Also why we have no new .51’s, everything is .50’s now.
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