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Post by jsh on Jul 18, 2013 19:48:08 GMT -5
I will have to check but think that is one I have. I have a 140 PB from one of the group buys on cast boolits from some years back. 45 2.1 drew it up just from my description. He could not have do e a better job if I was looking over his shoulder. When it finally came to be lee dropped the ball on their end. Nose was not correct. I think everyone involved kept them as we waited well over a year. None the less the thing is an excellent shooter out of my buckeye with the 32-20 cylinder. Will take ihmsa rams over at 200 no problem no wobbling or anything of the sort. I just need to get a deer critter to cooperate this fall. FYI 296/110 was my powder also. Slightly compressed. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 18, 2013 19:36:48 GMT -5
Now come on this was just on front sights! No need to torture a guy and show the whole gun. That is cruel and unusual punishment. Folks wonder why I fall for wheel guns in this day and age. Wheel guns SA or DA have personality. Don't get me wrong I have seen some nice autos. But they will never stack up with a wheel gun. Some very very nice examples folks. The Bisley's are just out standing. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 14, 2013 7:46:46 GMT -5
Only issue I have had is they seem a little bit larger. A bit more effort to seat. That being said I have no issue with them. I have went through 15-20k of them in large and small pistol. I bought 1k to try in large rifle. I have since went with large magnum pistol in my cast bullet rifle loads with no issues. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 9, 2013 22:40:27 GMT -5
Not every ones cup of tea. Some even say they aren't pistols but they have no butt stock? I have never had the chance to play with the "big" cases in the XP or other bolt guns. They have been chambered in all imaginable factory and wildcats. When a fellow has a prairie dog kill at a measured mile with no butt stock it's a pistol. Shoot blue rock at 1000. I am just a spectator with my equipment lol. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 9, 2013 6:15:06 GMT -5
I read a good book this last winter on optics. Optics for the hunter by John barsness. It was a good info in terms I could understand.
Stay away from Simmons. Unless you go with early ones as noted above. I went down the road of spending $$$$ on a rifle then spending $ or $$ on glass. As the old saying goes cry once. Until all the crap hit the fan and the chicken littles stormed the gun shops I looked in the used gun racks. I scanned the racks at the local cabelas all I looked at was glass. Then price tags a lot of times I could find upper end glass on decent to good rifles. I paid used price for the glass and got rifles for half price. Look at it however but they were bargains. Usually moved the rifle but sometimes I would go home and shoot the darn thing and sell the rifle I was looking for a scope for. I am no 1000 yard shooter but I do enjoy long range challenges. I do rub elbows with two young fellows on the USA shooting team. They are both still of the age where youth is in their favor as far as eye sight so they are shooting iron sights at 1000. Night force is the one if you have the money. Bushnell has a new one that is right on night forces heels as I understand. There was some testing run on optics by the military and bushnell was just a couple of points of of the night force. I have used several Burris scopes on loaned rifles but no model so that does you no good. I also looked through some ziess glass and was not all that impressed. Leupold I really don't need to say anything there I don't think. Excellent ? US optics looked through several but never used any. All were nib on the shelf. Some of the reticles looked awful busy to me? I want to shoot not do a math class or fly a helicopter. Maybe an old dog needs to learn new tricks though? First or second focal plane? I can't comment on that because I am still in a learning curve. But I thought to throw that in as it is something that one should consider depending on application. Most all glass looks good inside under artificial light. I look at optics on an over cast or rainy day myself. I want to know how good it is in poor conditions. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 9, 2013 5:42:26 GMT -5
Is there a particular reason no one has picked up the ball and ran with a max frame in a SA or DA? I realize that they are not autos but I would sure think the demand was there. Even if only offering one in the white. Same with cylinders. Once again I sure think magnum research/bfr is missing out on a nitch market. Especially if they offered 5 and 6 shot cylinders. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 7, 2013 1:01:09 GMT -5
I thought maybe it was just me but see others here have pretty much the same thoughts. Most of those range goobers are just on an ego trip. Pray and spray crowd is what I call them. If you ever see me with another auto other than a .22. It is for sale and you should know I as much as stole it. Folks will tell me it only holds 5 or it only holds 6. My response is I only need one. I have yet to ever have a revolver jam or stove pipe. Guy handed me his glock and tells me here this thing never jams. I ran about half the mag through it and it stove pipes. I clear it and go back after it jams again. Then I start to get a free shooting lesson and telling me not to limp wrist it etc. I say well just show me. He proceeds to show me. You guessed it same issues I had. Of course now it is excuses. I haven't cleaned it for ever. Maybe the ammo or the magazine. A week or so later I am shooting and a gent wants me to shoot his goldcup. 7 rounds and the red dot falls off. So we go to iron sights and pieces start falling off. I had an EAA witness match that was a tack driver but liked nothing but ball ammo. Couldn't get it to digest lead other than a single shot. Went to a Kimber custom match. The 22 conversion shot as good as any high standard. The 45 would only give acceptable accuracy with 2 loads using cast and cycle properly. And accuracy was sub standard for bullseye. Then I took the plunge into a goldcup. No better than the prior two autos combined. I now shoot my 625 jm with cast shooting DA for the challenge and practice for our summer bullseye league. I no longer need an alabi shot. Goes bang every time. Am going to try the 32 mag in the black hawk before the summer is over. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 7, 2013 0:23:17 GMT -5
WOW Kinda my thoughts to on alloy. Fairly hard and tough as it didn't fragment any. What we call honey locust around here ranks right there with hedge/Osage orange. Pretty hard when green harder than wood pecker lips when dry. I don't play with any hollow points in cast so am taking SWAG at this. I am not sur you would get much if any expansion on flesh with that alloy? Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 7, 2013 0:15:17 GMT -5
Is the twist in a 41 pretty standard? I guess what I am asking is the twist the same in the black hawk and the marlin? Are the marlins micro grooved or Ballard or both? I can make cast work in either but Ballard is so much more user friendly. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 7, 2013 0:04:35 GMT -5
I can't recall for certain it seems like Ruger may have offered a convertible 32/32-20 and the buckeye in the same calibers. Did you notice if the top strap had a buckeye stamped into it? From what you describe it sure sounds like the buckeye. The 32-20 can be loaded over and above what the 32 or 327 or 30 carbine can do in this modern gun of course. IMHO the 32-20 is highly over looked as a chambering in a modern gun. Starline brass and a 130-140 cast bullet some 296/110 or aa#9 and your ready to go. Not a baby magnum by any means. It doesn't know it is as small as it is. I wanted one bad enough and knew where one was at. I had to wait 20 years to get it but I finally did 2 years ago. Mine is 90% as there are some freckles on the hammer. Other than that it is minty. I gave $500 cash for mine with 2 boxes of ammo and a bunch of brass and thought that was a bargain. Jeff FYI I loaded up enough to get sight settings and shoot an ihmsa match. I shot a mid 30 something and knocked over all the rams I hit.
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Post by jsh on Jul 4, 2013 11:51:41 GMT -5
David your mention of "cork screwing " made me think of something I observed first hand. In the mid to late 80's one of the guys here that is a magician with S&W revolvers shot some ihmsa matches off and on. I spotted for him and another fellow kept time for him. 50 and 100 went in like a laser. At 150 it started to cork screw enough that the first shot I was sure was a miss but the dang turkey jumped off the rail. Second shot was the same way and a center of mass hit. Alll 5 fell into about a tight 2 1/2" group as I recall. Next 5 were the same way. At 200 they dropped in with a center of mass hits, behind the front shoulder to in front of the flank hits but elevation was only about +or - 1". This was shot with a highly tuned but stock barreled smith 29 classic ss. He shot in UAS as the thing was scoped. Load was 296/110 and a 300 grain Sierra. He shot prone on his belly with a big long cuffed welding glove on his left hand. This was way prior to what is now refered to as the fields flop by many. Doesn't sound like any big deal really huh? It was a 40x40 score. Everything was shot double action. Under the 2 minutes and 30 seconds of total time.
I tried the same load in my smith 105/8" 29. It would shoot in a fair group but you had to watch windage more than elevation I was shooting single action. I then tried it in a 10"tc. Shot as well as a thing else I hade tried at that time but no cork screwing. I have only really noticed this on 44 and 45 revolvers and not on all of them. 32-20/32 mag loads were fine. 357 mag loads were good. Not many played with the 41 but the match director here dog out his old Dan Wesson and went to town. A few of us started playing with cast and he was one of them. It showed the cork screwing with some bullets but not others. Then he switched powders and it went away in the designs he was using. He is a phycisist professor and can go way more into depth than I can. But he pretty much decided that it was a burn rate/ pressure curve thing. FYI did tell him I ran across you and he said to give you a hello. A lot of the gents I shoot with have been with ihmsa since the early days. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 3, 2013 19:38:31 GMT -5
Man oh man are you guys hard on a fellow. Custom, semi custom , stock , do it yourself custom. I feel like a turn signal yes no yes no. I have read over and scanned this place since I was pointed her on the 375 atomic thoughts I had. It is a fantastic place. I know what I want and what I expect. I am willing to pay for it too. (However I don't know which way to turn on a case design and caliber) About the time I think I have it figured out bam something else clicks. Bigger is better. You can always load down but it is hard on everything to run right up against the wall all the time. 357-44 caliber is what I am thinking. But then I get to looking at some of the big thumpers. I think my best bet is to just snag a 30 carbine and a 357 max. Then when I decided exactly what the devil I am going to do I am covered. However I am afraid if I find a max I will play with it and really like the dang thing. Maybe two are in line? I will keep plugging along here and learning as I go. You gents keep talking and I will listen and try to understand. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jul 3, 2013 19:15:08 GMT -5
Not in a pistol but a 18" marlin in 357. It is Ballard rifled. I did load work with a 180 cast custom mold in a 10" tc 357. I will have to look at powder as I don't recall what I ended up using. I was after speed and accuracy 1" at 100 was my goal. I am close to the 1" speed was way better than I expected. Load was derived from the LASC site. Article on heavy 357 loads in the FA. Know that I think of it powder was lil gun. I know there was some issues with it as far as heat cracking the throat. But I just use a few of these a year for deer. It will shoot through adult kansas white tails at 100-150 yards. I have tried to several angles in order to recover a bullet with no luck. I shot a large bodied buck at 130 yards a few years ago went through both front shoulders punched clear through. Internal damage was like a jacketed bullet on all the soft tissue. As Elmer says you can eat right up to the hole. Alloy was water dropped WW sweetened with some tin. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 29, 2013 9:07:47 GMT -5
Any one here familiar with Luft rifles? I have poked around a bit and info is hard to find as far as history. they were based out of around spokan washington. I did get a lead on a collector in Colorado but have not heard from him. I also called Biesens and spoke with a real nice lady there but she didn't know much other than the gent in Colorado. The one I have is a commercial Mauser action. Was originally chamber in 30 Luft magnum pretty much a 30-338. This was built prior to the 300 win mag. It was then rechambered in 71 to 300 win mag by the Lufts. Only kicker is it has a case of metal termites. It has been drilled and tapped different than the original. Bases do cover all but part of one hole. I knew this going in but the darn thing deserved better than I thought it would get so I packed it home. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 26, 2013 14:56:33 GMT -5
What is the good bad and ugly on the old model and new model black hawks? I am thinking about trading an XP action off on a new to me wheel gun. So I just would like to know where I can go with either the om or the nm. Looking at something I can play with now and do something with later. I know where there are several 357 super mags if I could get one of them to turn loose would be a platform for a 375 atomic when I get enough change in the ash tray some day. Jeff
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