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Post by jsh on Jun 25, 2013 20:36:06 GMT -5
Lyman makes a 204 RN that has shot very well for me in several different 35's. if you are shooting a wheel gun I highly suggest a custom mold. Do your home work and have it made to the measurements of your gun or guns. What you get from any of the molds made for the masses is luck of the draw. I have been down that road and it almost mad me swear off of cast bullets. You guys that are liking the 358156 give me some input please. I have tried several different molds and none shot any better than the other. Tried the 358156 in a out any modern 357 and 38 you can think of. We never could get much better than about a 6" group at 100m. That was out of a ss gp100. Tried different sizes and alloys to no avail. Powders and charges you name it we tried it. Cases, starline and WW. Primers magnums and standard. My old sw19 shot the best it ever did with 38 cases and the 358156 with a big dose of 2400. Go figure. Thanks Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 25, 2013 5:57:10 GMT -5
Speckle belly aka tiger geese. Different names in different parts of the country. I have seen lesser Canada's paired up with a snow goose. I kept an eye on them and their offspring was odd looking. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 24, 2013 16:33:21 GMT -5
As I mentioned in another thread the 7.62x54 and 303 are left out a lot of times. I got the idea quite a few years ago when I traded tc barrels. The 35 Remington is a good cartridge but the head spacing issue on the shoulder along with tc's chambering habits were frustrating at best. I traded into a 35 Remington rimmed. It uses 303 or 30-40 krag brass. Easy enough to make and no misfire issues. I don't know why the either wouldn't make a good revolver cartridge. If I had a lathe even a table top one I would be dangerous in the winter lol. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 22, 2013 21:06:11 GMT -5
Bump the shoulder with the whisper/bo. And use a carbide die in 357 to fl to the web. Have not checked on measurement but the old 7 super mag aka neckless wonder die could be used if shortend all it reall is is a 357 max case ran into a 7tcu die. I have fooled with reforming a lot of cases. I do not know why someone has not fooled with the 7.62x54 for a wildcat. Nice and fat and Lapua makes brass along with a few others. The 303 Brit is another. Run the 303 into a form a d trim die for a 7 or 30 br. It is a cute little devil for sure. But the large primer ......... I would think a standard large pistol would maybe do better than a rifle?? Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 18, 2013 23:17:37 GMT -5
Yessir George Peterson. I called him some years back and left a message. A fair bit later on the phone rang and it was George. Had actually forgotten I had called him. He had been out on a fishing trip. We talked fishing for quite a while as I recall. Got side tracked and never did get a stock from him till I got this old rig. I started shooting in the mid 80's. Didn't join ihmsa till later. Barely had enough money for a match and ammo at that time. The rams were rang on a regular basis when windy,wet or muddy. It was some what tough to scratch a 40x40 then. Shoot offs were a big show, but there wasn't half the field in them. Now today if ya don't shoot 40x40+10 your out. And that's not all in scope catagories either. 1/2 size was the best thing to happen to ihmsa IMHO. I was a AA class unlimited shooter and jumped on that wagon even before it was recognized as a sanctioned class. It will sure let you tune sight settings. Some said it was to hard. Folks just don't like a good challenge. Heck we use .22 chickens for shoot offs at 200m now. I sure wish I had played with iron sights a lot more back then. Technology has come a long way. Lol we sure play hell trying to replace youth Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 18, 2013 17:56:41 GMT -5
David the xp 7 br rechamber is a beast. It has one of the thumb hole stocks from the gent out in California. Good looking piece of wood. Thumb hole is for some small handed fellow. I shot it with some milder loads. Got good sight settings and went to a match got to turkeys and thumb knuckle was skinned up. Brass that came with it was the old basic brass with the rams on it. Thought about cutting them down and making a few ball cap or lapel pins out of them. Hate to say it but ihmsa is dying a slow death. I sure wish I had an answer for them. The old lead a horse to water........ Most of today's crowd is of the pray and spray notion. Very few riflemen let alone marksmen. Would sure like to shake your hand some day. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 16, 2013 21:25:19 GMT -5
So gents help me out here. What are the "do's" and "don'ts" using a bottle neck in a wheel gun. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 16, 2013 16:07:59 GMT -5
I was all gungho on the 5.7, then did some homework. IMHO it is nothing more than a modern hornet with a pressure boost. It is a cute little devil if nothing else. I throw it into the pray and spray crowd. .308 or .312 I have seen no vast difference on paper at any ethical hunting distance. FYI I got in on the 30-20 when the 300 whisper was just getting started. The 30-20/32-20 still looks down on the 32 mag and 327 in a modern steel gun. I think to be the actual original true magnum. The only reason I even looked at the 30-357 was the cost of a danger lever gun of modern mfg in 32-20. The 30 Reese nor the 30-357 are anything remotely new as far as ideas. Maybe a shoulder angle or neck length change. Not enough to argue over. David I have to ask a personal question. How young are you now? I am looking as I type this at a Shooting Steel and Gun Digest Metallic Silhouette shooting and a fair sized library of the ihmsa news. Even have some copies of the old silhouetter around here. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 16, 2013 8:50:45 GMT -5
I have messed with the 30-20 in a BF and a TC for 20 years. It takes a some what bad rap on several things. .312 or .308. There isn't enough difference to argue over IMHO. Jacketed or cast. Well after starting casting about 13 years ago I see no need for a jacketed bullet. A cast bullet out of a straight walled pistol cartridge will do as good if not better than a jacketed. Of course that is with proper alloy and bullet design. My Ruger buckeye 32 mag/32-20 is doing 1400 with a 140 and 296/H110 load. The bullet was custom design group buy from cast boolits several years back. When working up loads I had a batch of 25 that were once fired rp brass. It has been put through the wringer all of them being reloaded and fl sized 6 times and annealed at the mouth twice. I have 100 pieces of starline that I use now and expect the same if not better. The above mentioned load will take down hand set rams at 200 meters when hit. The cases just drop out and have no pressure signs of any sort. I have toted this several times deer hunting but have not gotten one inside of what I want to try. As far distance As far as cases being weak. Just treat it like hornet brass. It is not as bad as what is let on by folks though. Not looking at any kind of survival/doomsday rig. Just a neat combo. FYI to the first comment a projectile has no idea out of what type of action it is fired out of. There are twist used today that are in need of a dire update in rifles and pistols. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 12, 2013 16:39:40 GMT -5
I liked sr4759 in mine. The krag is the perfect factory case for shooting cast. Actually a toss between it and the 30-30. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 11, 2013 15:44:14 GMT -5
What is the picture of?
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Post by jsh on Jun 10, 2013 18:27:22 GMT -5
Interesting. Can you post a link or give me a recipe. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 10, 2013 6:16:40 GMT -5
You didn't add mica to the alox did you ? Just dust them on them with it if they are a bit tacky. I use very little alox. But when I do I dump them on wax paper and spread them out so that they are not touching. Then put the fan on them over night. Mine are not sticky but I thin the alox with water. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 9, 2013 13:25:15 GMT -5
Bradshaw it makes for a smaller world every time I can put an article with an actual person on the net. I have gathered pretty much all of the old ihmsa books put out. Gun digest and the reloading guide and old magazine articles etc. My many many thanks to you , Elgin and a lot of others for giving me the chance to play the ihmsa game. I feared it was dying a slow death a few years back. It is a tough time for a lot of shooting sports but there are few willing to devote the time to play the game. A lot of folks playing the pray and spray games. I have an xp chambered in 7 int one of the rechambers of the 7br. Have had a lot of old early stuff from years past have one of the early bf s. as to the tc s and collecting. I had bought a collection and fooled with it for a while. The. Came to my senses kid I didn't shoot it why have it. At on time very briefly I had all the chamberings in the octagon barrels and all of the TCA offerings to date. Jeff
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Post by jsh on Jun 9, 2013 8:59:22 GMT -5
Some place I had stashed a pretty lengthy article on shooting cast with no lube just using hardness and size. No fast stuff but the speeds were still above what ever I would have guessed along with good accuracy. What brand of gun are you shooting?? Between FA's S&W Ruger I have found no perfect size as far as a universal fit. The early smiths seem to shoot better for me but that may be from round count slicking everything up. Modern smiths have the barrel torqued down so hard most have a bulge in them. It is an easy enough fix I just don't know why they leave like that. The Rugers I have fooled with in da and sa have been fairly easy to get to run. The FA is a whole different breed of cat. Tolerances are almost to tight. I am not complaining as most FAs will out shoot a lot of rifles. To much crimp and you won't get them to chamber. Front driving band a smidge to big will cause issues. I think if you got a rock to chamber it would shoot it very well though. My friends 44 is a pleasure to shoot. Poor groups with it are about the best you can get with a lot of wheel guns. Jeff
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