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S&W 25-5
Jan 22, 2024 10:16:59 GMT -5
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Post by marlin35 on Jan 22, 2024 10:16:59 GMT -5
I have read some stuff about oversize throats in the 25-5’s, do yall size cast to .454? Or shoot as cast and lube with a slightly oversize sizing die? My molds drop at .4535 so I could soften my alloy and try to get it to bump up. I know it’s hard to say without whatever gun I’ll end up with but I’m a thinker. They did “get it right” with newer 25-5’s. As was mentioned the non-pinned barrel guns, at least every one I have seen, had proper sized throats. The 25-7 I have shoots like a laser . It was only available in a 5” matte finish. If you can find a 25-9, they are the cream of the crop. Throats sized correctly, endurance package, no lock, and were made with 4” barrels if desired. The earlier 25-5’s (pinned barrel guns) if they had the large throats can be made to shoot ok with proper loads but can be a pain. I know people cuss the newer guns with the lock, frame mounted firing pin, MIM parts, etc. but if S&W would make a 4” M 25 again I’m in for one. Mountain Gun or heavier ribbed barrel, either would work. Dan Can you explain the pinned vs not pinned issue? And the frame locks aren’t the most appealing thing to me but I would certainly live with it if it means I get properly sized throats. The 4” barrel is what I want, I’m just trying to be patient so I get what I want instead of settling out for something else. This is a sort of a “grail gun” issue for me.
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S&W 25-5
Jan 22, 2024 12:14:55 GMT -5
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Post by bigmuddy on Jan 22, 2024 12:14:55 GMT -5
Copied from guns.com
“Another topic that comes up often is what makes a Smith & Wesson revolver “pinned and recessed”? Well, prior to 1982, Smith & Wesson revolvers had the barrel attached to the frame by a pin through the rear of the barrel. This was seen as a mark of quality by the factory and is a bonus to collectors, even though it doesn’t affect the value.”
45 Colts never had recessed cylinders but the barrels were pinned until 1982. The pin has nothing really to do with cylinder throats. By 1982 the throats on the 45’s were corrected. There are some pinned barrel guns that are correct but looking for “non” pinned is a quick way to increase your odds at getting a good shooter.
To keep it simple your best bet is to find any of the variants with non pinned barrels. (The pin is through the frame where the barrel screws in and is visible there)
Dan
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Post by bigmuddy on Jan 22, 2024 12:23:21 GMT -5
There is a non pinned M25-5 on Gunbroker for what I would say is too much money.
GB number:1030022670
Dan
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S&W 25-5
Jan 22, 2024 14:56:26 GMT -5
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Post by enfield on Jan 22, 2024 14:56:26 GMT -5
I guess a guy could always have the barrel chopped on a newer gun. The 6.5" can be had for less than $1000. Not sure what the work would cost, when considering custom front sight and reblue though.
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Post by boatswainsmate on Jan 22, 2024 15:16:33 GMT -5
If you're able to deal with the lock I see these (25-13 Mountain Gun) for sale occasionally on Gunbroker. I replaced the grips and added the Tyler T. It originally came with wood combats. Happy Shooting! Boats
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S&W 25-5
Jan 22, 2024 15:31:31 GMT -5
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Post by marlin35 on Jan 22, 2024 15:31:31 GMT -5
If you're able to deal with the lock I see these (25-13 Mountain Gun) for sale occasionally on Gunbroker. I replaced the grips and added the Tyler T. It originally came with wood combats. Happy Shooting! Boats Great looking cannon. The lock doesn’t bother me. What differentiates a mountain gun from the standard 25-5?
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Post by boatswainsmate on Jan 22, 2024 15:40:22 GMT -5
Great looking cannon. The lock doesn’t bother me. What differentiates a mountain gun from the standard 25-5? [/quote] It has slimmer barrel profile that shaves off weight.
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Post by marlin35 on Jan 22, 2024 15:46:39 GMT -5
Great looking cannon. The lock doesn’t bother me. What differentiates a mountain gun from the standard 25-5? It has slimmer barrel profile that shaves off weight. [/quote] That would be ideal then. I plan to carry this gun…a lot. I held a 4” 629 today just to get a feel, and they are heavy. I don’t think it’s much heavier than my Bisley Blackhawk, but the weight is laid out differently. I’ve never owned a smith, but I think once I get the gun and make the holster, familiarity will be established and it will be perfect. I usually keep a new handgun by the recliner and handle it (safely) until I acquire the feel.
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Post by needsmostuff on Jan 22, 2024 22:47:11 GMT -5
O Yeah, when a S&W is on it's game they are a joy to own and shoot. This is an earlier 4" 625-6 Mountain Gun with no lock. The 5" nonlocked, and unfluted 25-7 is a little more to carry around but a little easier on the shootin hand. Both are sized correctly and shoot as well as I can hold them. Hmmm, reminds me, they both also deserve to see more daylight.
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Post by bushog on Jan 22, 2024 23:45:57 GMT -5
My 4” 25-9 is a treasure. When I got it I sold my 25-7s
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S&W 25-5
Jan 23, 2024 6:15:01 GMT -5
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Post by marlin35 on Jan 23, 2024 6:15:01 GMT -5
I understand Mr. Linebaugh carried a 4” model 25 as his everyday piece. Do the smiths hold up to his 13gr of HS-6 loading?
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Post by 45MAN on Jan 23, 2024 8:16:16 GMT -5
I understand Mr. Linebaugh carried a 4” model 25 as his everyday piece. Do the smiths hold up to his 13gr of HS-6 loading? HE MAY HAVE CARRIED EVERY DAY BUT HE DID NOT SHOOT IT EVERYDAY - 45MAN
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Post by edk on Jan 23, 2024 8:44:13 GMT -5
I understand Mr. Linebaugh carried a 4” model 25 as his everyday piece. Do the smiths hold up to his 13gr of HS-6 loading? Think of it as an airweight J-frame firing 38 +P: a) How well do you think it would hold up? b) How much would you want to shoot it? Also consider: putting yourself in the shoes of a gunsmith, would you be more concerned about safety and any possible catastrophic damage or more so that with all of the proper tools and knowledge on hand you may need to work on it for an hour or two every few years tightening it up? That puts some perspective on "holding up".
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S&W 25-5
Jan 23, 2024 9:22:29 GMT -5
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Post by marlin35 on Jan 23, 2024 9:22:29 GMT -5
I understand what y’all are saying. Do you consider 13 gr of HS-6 pushing a 255 gr bullet at 1050 fps to be over pressure? I understand it’s over specs for the old colts, but buffalo bore would consider that a standard pressure heavy round. Not that they’re the authority on this..
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Post by bigmuddy on Jan 23, 2024 10:12:26 GMT -5
I believe that load falls into the “tier two” level. (23,000 psi max). A model 25 will handle those loads just fine. I have used that HS6 load with no problems. Backed it down to 12.5 with a 265 grain bullet. For no real reason I am now using Longshot in my tier two loads in my 25’s. They both get to see a lot of loads with Unique as well.
If you get to handle a M25 Mountain gun I’m sure you will like it. There’s a reason why they are hard to find. There owners love ‘em.
Dan
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