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Post by longoval on Jan 30, 2022 17:19:11 GMT -5
Thank you! I do have so many questions. I will reach out to you sometime this week.
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Post by RDW on Feb 4, 2022 11:30:52 GMT -5
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Post by pacecars on Feb 4, 2022 13:52:42 GMT -5
Next thing you know you will be making frames, barrels and complete guns
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 4, 2022 22:03:12 GMT -5
Next thing you know you will be making frames, barrels and complete guns The man already works 7days. It'll kill him |
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Post by potatojudge on Feb 4, 2022 22:10:40 GMT -5
Next thing you know you will be making frames, barrels and complete guns The man already works 7days. It'll kill him I believe he's up to 8 now. |
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Post by 2 Dogs on Feb 4, 2022 23:05:01 GMT -5
The man already works 7days. It'll kill him I believe he's up to 8 now. I’m pretty sure he never sleeps. Can anybody confirm he sleeps? The other day I was in his shop and he was rattling off binary code going up and down the scale so fast smoke was coming out of his ears. I was waiting for a hatch to pop open on top of his head and an on fire alien come jumping out! |
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Post by RDW on Feb 5, 2022 12:09:09 GMT -5
I believe he's up to 8 now. I’m pretty sure he never sleeps. Can anybody confirm he sleeps? The other day I was in his shop and he was rattling off binary code going up and down the scale so fast smoke was coming out of his ears. I was waiting for a hatch to pop open on top of his head and an on fire alien come jumping out! Hahahahahaha Funny you should mention that Fermin. One did pop out right after you left but he was wearing one of our old retired nitro car firesuits. So i think he's ok. Just needed some fresh air. I had a guy ask me the other day what it was like to walk in my shoes. I told him that it would be boring. I told him What he needed to do was spend 15 seconds in my head. THAT WOULD FREAK YOU OUT MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 5, 2022 13:01:49 GMT -5
15 seconds in the mind of a Texas tornado? Nah, I got my own kind of batty going on here.
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Post by northerngos on Feb 5, 2022 23:07:36 GMT -5
Ronnie,
Thanks for taking my call and being so generous with your time answering questions the other day, I appreciate it! I am very excited about what you are doing and I eagerly await the advent of stainless steel grip frames as well! I’d be down for 3 if pre-orders were ever offered.
I was thinking about how many options you offer and had a thought (forgive me if this has been discussed already, if it has I missed it). Do you have a 3D printer? It would be neat for folks to be able to order a plastic mock up of a paneled grip frame with “trigger” of choice (maybe hammer too) that they could feel for personal fit. Would allow checking with gloves and for reach to trigger etc etc. if it made sense you could offer a small discount on grip frame order if the mock ups were returned in good shape so you could “sell” them to the next folks looking and save time and materials making them. Or people could swap them around on the forum here as well. In any case if properly executed it may be a great way for people to see what exactly fits their hand and fingers best. Some people might be pleasantly surprised at which model might offer the magic fit!
Keep up the great work!
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 5, 2022 23:55:57 GMT -5
Ronnie, Thanks for taking my call and being so generous with your time answering questions the other day, I appreciate it! I am very excited about what you are doing and I eagerly await the advent of stainless steel grip frames as well! I’d be down for 3 if pre-orders were ever offered. I was thinking about how many options you offer and had a thought (forgive me if this has been discussed already, if it has I missed it). Do you have a 3D printer? It would be neat for folks to be able to order a plastic mock up of a paneled grip frame with “trigger” of choice (maybe hammer too) that they could feel for personal fit. Would allow checking with gloves and for reach to trigger etc etc. if it made sense you could offer a small discount on grip frame order if the mock ups were returned in good shape so you could “sell” them to the next folks looking and save time and materials making them. Or people could swap them around on the forum here as well. In any case if properly executed it may be a great way for people to see what exactly fits their hand and fingers best. Some people might be pleasantly surprised at which model might offer the magic fit! Keep up the great work! ***** I don’t know what a 3-D printer is, but it sounds like a device to copy someone else’s work. I do know this: the proof of a grip frame is in the shooting. Numerous grips feel great until the gun goes off. The conformation of a shooter’s hand and what he or she shoots is the first arrow in the quiver of grip design. David Bradshaw |
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Post by longoval on Feb 6, 2022 0:07:09 GMT -5
A 3d scanner is for copying others work (along with plenty of legitimate uses). A 3d printer is for rapid prototyping.
You make a great point about firing the gun being the ultimate proof of concept. As opposed to how it feels in your hand.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 6, 2022 0:26:37 GMT -5
A 3D printer just makes a copy of something in plastic cheaply.
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Post by northerngos on Feb 6, 2022 0:38:46 GMT -5
A 3D printer would make a 3 dimensional plastic rendering of the grip. It creates through addition of material rather than subtraction like traditional machining. The effect would be the same as if you made a plaster cast and filled it with plastic resin. It wouldn’t be necessary to make a whole copy that could be mated to a frame but just a demonstration of how it lays out in relation to trigger and hammer with panels on. I agree 100% that the proof of the ideal frame for an individual can only be realized in test firing (otherwise I’d be putting xreds on my 475s) but for example, I was very interested in the description of what the “Bradshaw” allows but had to modify a bisley frame with added material on the backstrap to check my hand against it to see that the Bradshaw version backstrap was simply too far for my stubby fingers to reach the trigger. 4 degree bisley might be ok, but maybe the Kaytod would be perfect. Maybe the Kaytod would feel perfect but under recoil might turn in my hand or something and that can only be seen through fitting and testing however the most efficient recoil reducing grip frame out there won’t do me any good if my fat fingers and hand shape don’t allow me to reach the trigger perfectly, or cause the web of my hand to ride into the hammer spur.
What Ronnie Wells has done already is incredible, and seems to me like it may be one of the more important innovations in single action (for now, who knows what he will get up to in the future) shooting in a long long time. When he has perfected his processes it will allow for true custom personal fitting of weapon to wielder in a way that has never been remotely possible. I know that for me (sample size of 1) I am sold. I will be replacing grip frames and am delaying a 500 maximum build and likely a Bowen 5 shot 45 build until I can have them made with frames from him. But I would sure buy with extra excitement and confidence if I knew I could start with a frame that fit my hand, invest and test on a revolver I own to see how it handles recoil for me in actuality, then start replacing grip frames on every applicable heavy hitter I own and stock up on a couple extras for future builds.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 6, 2022 9:07:26 GMT -5
I whole heartedly agree that a frame must be shot to see how it fits the hand. When I was trying to get Ronnie to make the BB5, I already knew the lower part fit well. Had some doubts about the raised backstrap mating to the web of my hand. Luckily it only required a minor bit of modification to fit perfectly. With a plastic prototype, it would have been much less of a loss should we had to start over vs the fully machined aluminum one. I could have sanded the contour in then sent it back for the shooting prototype. Then the real test begins.
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Post by diddle on Feb 15, 2022 8:33:36 GMT -5
I don’t know what a 3-D printer is, but it sounds like a device to copy someone else’s work.
Let’s be precise here. Industry refers to this generic process as “additive manufacturing” when it is used to make metallic parts. It’s being used as an alternative source for the manufacture of scarce, highly pedigreed castings and forgings on USN nuclear submarines. Needless to say, it’s not a toy.
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