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Post by bighink66 on Mar 29, 2013 21:16:49 GMT -5
Can a 357 be loaded to minimize muzzle blast and have enough juice to hunt deer?
Something like a 180 or 200 grain bullet out of a 4 inch barrel at 1000fps.
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Post by bradshaw on Mar 30, 2013 6:40:58 GMT -5
You ask for a lot. The .357 magnum has a higher cycles-per-second sound wave than a .44 magnum. Add a short barrel and you up the sonic boom.
A 180 or 200 grain bullets reduces concussion by holding back the powder and, due to heavier bullet, burning less of it.
Best ticket to the performance zone you seek sounds like a 10mm Auto.
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Neither arrangement is for the deer tracker. At that, limit use to smaller deer. Don't take after big deer with these rounds. And don't expect the reaction to a gob of lead you get from the .44 mag and uploaded .45 Colt.
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Post by hammerdown77 on Mar 30, 2013 9:05:29 GMT -5
Sounds to me like the OP just asked for a 44 Special....
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Post by Frank V on Mar 30, 2013 13:51:11 GMT -5
Sounds to me like the OP just asked for a 44 Special.... ;D ;D ;D |
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Post by bighink66 on Mar 30, 2013 20:16:15 GMT -5
I.m looking for a light revolver that I can kill deer with when the opportunity presents itself. Something to wear on days I drive deer or just feel like sneaking through the thick stuff. Ranges inside 75 yards, that being long due to visibility.
Something light because I will walk all day.
I had thought about charter target in 44, a ruger s p 101, or adding a rear sight to a new 1917.
I can.t seem to make up my mind on what will work best for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 20:34:48 GMT -5
S&W makes some lightweight big bore revolvers. I would expect a 329 (44 magnum) to be among the lightest. The std Mountain Gun is available in 44 mag, and 45 Colt. There are also used 41 mag MGs to be found. Or, the 396 44 Spl Mountain Lite.
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Post by robl on Mar 30, 2013 21:16:03 GMT -5
Light weight and 75 yard hand gunning are not a good pair.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 8:41:39 GMT -5
Light weight and 75 yard hand gunning are not a good pair. Truer words were never spoken. |
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Post by subsonic on Mar 31, 2013 8:46:41 GMT -5
You can't get there from here, but you can get close with a 329, Mountain gun, or standard Blackhawk in a caliber that starts with a 4.
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Post by woody on Mar 31, 2013 9:38:08 GMT -5
Everyone likes to talk down the 357 for deer. I'm a huge 357 fan. But remember to keep it in perspective. A 44 bullet through the gut is the same as a 357 through the guts. It is all shot placement. If you take lung shots it will be more than sufficent at reasonable distances. Im a avid bow hunter so i have always looked at shot placement even with a firearm from that perspective.
75 yards is pushing it. 40 yards max is my distance because my 357's are my most practiced guns. I have a 357 mountain gun that I would never part with!!! If you are going to be carrying the gun as you say to poke through thickets etc. that should be good as long as you dont taking running shots,marginal shots etc. I like 158 or 180 XTP's that I push pretty fast. Also depends on the size of the deer. Down south it would be perfect. The first time I saw a Texas/southern deer I thought it was a dog!!! Our deer here in NY can get big bodied.
Most guys I know in my area that carry a handgun would be better suited with a 357 that some of the guns they do carry. I know one guy that has a .500 S&W and anything at spitting distance is safe!!! But if he shot a 357 and practiced with it a lot he would do fine. You can afford to practice a lot with a 357 compared to other calibers.
With that all said what do I hunt with? A .41 or .44 if I'm hunting with a handgun only. But in a situation you mentioned my 357 mountain gun is on my side at times and definitely if I have a long gun in my hands. When I need to fill tags and we do drives nothing beats a shotgun slug. You hit them and they go down!!!
I know most everyone will not agree with my post!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 11:10:52 GMT -5
You're not really disagreeing with anybody woody. I have an LBT LFN for .357 that came out at 170 gr. I wanted 180 gr, but once I tried a few of the test cat bullets, I realized I'd pick up a little more velocity, and that I wouldn't really give up much penetration, if any. If I had to shoot a deer at 75 yards, this is the bullet I'd want. Muzzle blast is typical .357 mag level.
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Post by woody on Mar 31, 2013 11:35:48 GMT -5
You're not really disagreeing with anybody woody. I have an LBT LFN for .357 that came out at 170 gr. I wanted 180 gr, but once I tried a few of the test cat bullets, I realized I'd pick up a little more velocity, and that I wouldn't really give up much penetration, if any. If I had to shoot a deer at 75 yards, this is the bullet I'd want. Muzzle blast is typical .357 mag level. I love your user name. Im going to cast a few this week but solids. I figured you would like the 357!!!! |
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Post by ohnomrbillk on Mar 31, 2013 12:57:31 GMT -5
Light weight and 75 yard hand gunning are not a good pair. Truer words were never spoken. Amen |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2013 19:32:14 GMT -5
If I had to give 'em all up for one caliber, it would be .357 magnum. My first revolver was a S&W Model 10 in 38 S&W, the second one was a .357, and even in troubled times, when everything else had been sold to pay bills, I've always had at least one .357 mag. Times are better now, and I have a few hanging around.
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Post by Frank V on Apr 1, 2013 14:18:38 GMT -5
I don't know what .357 you have & I'm a fan of the .44 Special or .45 Colt, but If I wanted a .357 for those conditions I think I'd choose the Ruger Blackhawk on the medium frame. It's heavy enough to shoot well, Strong enough for most loads, accurate enough for most purposes, & portable enough to carry all day. For a nice balance between portability & shoot-ability, I would pick one in the 5-1/2" bbl length. For ease of carry, I'd select one of Rob's Simply Rugged holsters!
I'd also use the good old Lyman 358156 loaded to about 1200fps. I think this would satisfy your needs!
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