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Post by todddoyka on Nov 20, 2016 13:51:48 GMT -5
i have a 6.5cm in a tc encore with a 16 1/4" MGM barrel. it shoots NICELY!!! 5 shots at 100 yards goes .3". it is a 120gr nosler bt on top of a charge of superformance. my 6.5cm is for mostly hunting deer but i can do an informal shoot(like cans, bottles...) out to 400 yards.
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Post by todddoyka on Nov 17, 2016 22:13:48 GMT -5
i thought about the 50 alaskan but .510" boolits you don't need the velocity it produces. i was thinking, if a 450ish gr boolit can do a hole at 1200-1300fps, i shouldn't worry so much about it.
i do like the 500 L, it seems like it can do a bunch more with less pressure and that means less recoil.
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Post by todddoyka on Nov 17, 2016 1:37:37 GMT -5
You can't go 65KSI in the Encore with a .500 Linebaugh. You are .040 less meat under the scope mounting screws. Case head thrust on a .300 win mag at 64 KSI is about is 14K lbs. You will equal that same case head thrust on the .500 L at 48 KSI. If you want more .510 performance in your Encore than you an get with published .500L loads, please look at the .50 AK. i'm sorry about the tc encore pressure, i was just explaining the pressure differece between the encore and sbh. i should have told everyone i am disabled(stroke) and my right arm/leg don't work. everything will be a tc encore that is a rifle. i don't except much more than 35,000psi. the 500 L will be mostly for deer/black bear and it should be 100-125 yards. i'm trying to find what load will work at 1200-1400fps. i know that a 500 L using 450gr cast will do roughly 1300fps(lilgun) from a revolver. from a rifle, i don't know. i am going to 2400 before i go one to something else(blue dot). i know the 500 L and a 23" barrel is not the best thing. but i have found that my tc encore feels right with 444 marlin(23" MGM barrel). i was going use a 25" barrel but 23" is more than enough.
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Post by todddoyka on Nov 3, 2016 13:00:31 GMT -5
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Post by todddoyka on Oct 31, 2016 3:54:49 GMT -5
i am going to try 2400 starting with a 21gr charge ending with a 25gr charge. it should end up like 1500+/-fps. i know that a tc encore can do 60000-65000psi while a ruger sbh goes roughly 35000psi?(i'm guessing).
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Post by todddoyka on Oct 30, 2016 18:08:58 GMT -5
i'm going to use either 2400(24-25gr) or blue dot(19-20gr). what i am guessing it will be around 1200-1400fps.
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Post by todddoyka on Oct 30, 2016 16:40:16 GMT -5
my 500 linebaugh quest has come to a complete stop in the road. to remind you, it will be a tc encore with a 23" barrel and it will take a 450gr lfn about 1200-1400fps that will kill a deer/black bear out to 100-125 yards. i may try a 500-530gr cast boolit, just for giggles, but it is far off.
the rifle twist is what stops me. will it be either a....
1 in 28" twist that MGM barrels or a 1 in 18" twist that bullberry barrels make?
i'm not a rifle twist guy, i just shoot them. when people start going the greenhill twist........i find something better to do. i'm a big fan of MGM, they do excellent work. i have not tried a bullberry barrel but i suspect they do the same.
so will it be either the MGM or the bullberry? or am i worried about nothing?
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Post by todddoyka on Oct 24, 2016 14:25:30 GMT -5
i do have some win296 but i don't like using it. i could find some blue dot if i have to. since i can't find any 500-530gr loads, i think it will go to the 450+/-gr loads. it can be either the 450gr swc, 460gr keith swc gc or 450gr lfn gc. the velocity will be the same, 1300+/-fps. what do you think?
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Post by todddoyka on Oct 19, 2016 22:04:47 GMT -5
i can find 400-480gr boolits with unique, titegroup and 2400. what i can't find is 510-530gr boolits and unique, titegroup and 2400. does anyone use it? where can i find it?
thanks!!!
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Post by todddoyka on Oct 18, 2016 13:25:26 GMT -5
i know this is a dumb question but i have to ask. how much fps do you gain going from a revolver to a rifle? i know that fps is not set in stone, but a "guesstimate" should be "close enuff for gubberment werk."
i'm going to buy a 500 linebaugh in my tc encore with a 23-25" barrel(MGM barrels). i have found ballistics for a revolver but not a rifle(fps). i think that 1300fps+/- should be about right for shooting a whitetail/black bear at 100-125 yards. i haven't found out which yet but it can be a 450gr kieth swc, 510gr lfn pb or a 525gr fn gc and the alloy is lyman #2 or water quench ww. the powders i have are trail boss, unique, titegroup and 2400.
thank you!!
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Post by todddoyka on Sept 24, 2016 6:33:01 GMT -5
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Post by todddoyka on Sept 12, 2016 13:35:41 GMT -5
50 ak in a levergun is a hoot! 375 gr gc over a case ful of trailboss is range friendly. I have a bunch of the HP 400plus grainers from the Miha molds I'm going to try in my encore. I'll let you know how they do i'd like to see what they do!! is your encore a rifle or a pistol?
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Post by todddoyka on Sept 11, 2016 17:53:58 GMT -5
i've settled on the 500 linebaugh, of course if i was going to go for t rex it would definitly be the 50 ak!!! but since i am only going for stegosaurus, i think it will be ok. although i do like the 50 ak, i don't think i'll need a 1/2 case legnth.
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Post by todddoyka on Sept 9, 2016 22:09:05 GMT -5
let me say that i am not a recoil junky. i can stand up to a 444 marlin(tc encore) that is going 2000fps with a 280gr wfn with rel7 and a 45-70(handi-rifle) that goes around 1600fps with a 405gr fn boolit with a charge of h4198. its not a hot load, but neither is it a trail boss load. i have been thinking about a lyman 515141 for a couple of weeks and black powder. since MGM doesn't make a 50-70 govt, i've been pondering(hey a new word!!!) between the 500 s&w and the 500 linebaugh(1 in 28" twist). the s&w doesn't do much for me, but the 500 L does. since i am still guessing on whether or not i will use the 500 L and the lyman 515141, i will see what everybody says. it will be a tc encore in a 24+/-" full bull barrel( i have to go high plains gunstock for another forearm) in 500 L. since i don't want to make myself black and blue with red stuff coming out, i'm guessing that something along the lines of unique or 2400 will be used. the velocity will be around 1100-1300fps, not near a 1500+fps does with a revolver. the 1100fps will be the bees knees with the 515141. it will be for whitetail and occasionally a black bear. i "think" it will be a 100-125 yards cartridge. it will also be a peep sight kinda gun. i'm still looking at a front sight. Williams FP-TK Peep Sight- Thompson Center Encore, Omega, G2 and Scoutwww.brownells.com/rifle-parts/sights/rear-sights/wgrs-encore-fits-t-c-encore-sku962000015-16154-36198.aspxthe 500 L is a smokeless powder gun, although i "might" try black powder in it(ffg or ffffg). ok, i'm ready!!! go ahead and try not to beat me too much(i'm disabled, stroke), i'm listening for anything that could/could not be velocity/boolit/sights.....
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