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Post by Encore64 on May 25, 2017 11:37:09 GMT -5
Both is always good. I vote the .480 "first". Agree. Considering the five day rule for two handguns, the 480 Ruger should be five days ahead of the 454 Casull.
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Post by whitworth on May 25, 2017 11:38:36 GMT -5
Range is one of the most oft repeated reasons to justify the noise and recoil of the .454 Casull. While I agree in principle, as a handgun hunter I really don't see this as a game changer in that I will rarely take shots much over 100 yards. Sure the .480 isn't buzzing along at the same speeds as a .454 loaded to spec, but that doesn't mean it won't kill with aplomb at 150 yards. It's somewhat of a false narrative in my humble opinion. I killed a moose with my .500 Linebaugh slinging 500 grain bullets at a whopping 1,200 fps at the muzzle. My first shot was 100 yards and subsequent shots were around 125 yards. Only one bullet failed to exit, but it was nearly exiting as it traveled lengthwise through the moose. As long as you are sighted in for the distance, and/or know your drop at those ranges and can compensate with holdover, all that velocity is a non-issue. Again, JMHO.
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Post by bula on May 25, 2017 11:58:18 GMT -5
Hey, I had to give'm something. One last try..if you are enamored and deeply invested in the 45 bore, you may want to choose a 454 over the 480. He he he !
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on May 25, 2017 12:38:10 GMT -5
Hard to argue with Whit on this. He's right. Really it comes down to what you want. If you've been having fun with hot .45 Colt for a while, I say go .480 Ruger.
BTW Whit... When I first read your post I thought you said you shot a MOUSE at 100 yards! I was simeltanously confused and intrigued at hearing a story about blasting a mouse at 100 yards with a .500L! Especially if more than one shot was required!
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Post by clintsfolly on May 25, 2017 12:57:09 GMT -5
That one tough mouse to stop a 500gr lug!🤓
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Post by callmaker on May 25, 2017 13:21:14 GMT -5
This is similar to what I was looking at earlier this year. I was trying to decide between a 454 and a 475 L. I already have a nicely tuned Ruger 45 Colt. Good hand loading, and good bullet choice can turn the 45 colt into an outright hammer of a gun. Therefore, decided the 45 diameter was covered well enough, and if I really wanted any further advantage I would prefer to gain it through bullet size/weight. So I picked up a .475 BFR. I can comprehend the idea of letting the bullet carry the workload. Heavy weight, large diameter, moderate velocity.
No surprise, I vote for the 480.
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Post by 500fksjr on May 25, 2017 13:27:01 GMT -5
That one tough mouse to stop a 500gr lug!🤓 Shooting chipmonks with a 500 L an trail boss has really prepared me for mouse hunts and with 525s an hs 6 I am able to do ground hogs to...
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Post by grizzly on May 25, 2017 17:49:22 GMT -5
I have both and since you have a .45 colt now I would go with the .480. Personally I think the .480 Ruger has more felt recoil to me but I was shooting 410 grain Buffalo Bore .480 vs 240 and 300 grain Hornady .454 Casull. Honestly I'd be happy with either one, but I usually give the edge to the bigger bullet.
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Post by isaactc on May 25, 2017 18:18:35 GMT -5
O.K. I am going with the .480/.475L. One last question: Is the BFR easier om the middle knuckle" My .45 Ruger Bisley, shooting heavy for caliber bullets punishes my middle knuckle. I see that Magnum research now has a Bisley style grip frame available. Does anyone know how much $ that option is?
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Post by whitworth on May 25, 2017 18:46:25 GMT -5
O.K. I am going with the .480/.475L. One last question: Is the BFR easier om the middle knuckle" My .45 Ruger Bisley, shooting heavy for caliber bullets punishes my middle knuckle. I see that Magnum research now has a Bisley style grip frame available. Does anyone know how much $ that option is? Yes, the BFR will be easier on the middle knuckle. In fact mine have never been tagged shooting BFRs. I don't know what the Bisley option costs.
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Post by isaactc on May 25, 2017 19:15:47 GMT -5
Thanks whitworth! I am going to call Magnum Research on Tuesday, and get one ordered. By the way I just finished reading my new Hardcover Book of Ruger revolvers. Great info, great photo's. altogether a terrific book!
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Post by Encore64 on May 25, 2017 19:19:13 GMT -5
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Post by Quick Draw McGraw on May 25, 2017 19:33:15 GMT -5
When I talked to MRI, they said a Bisley grip is $80. Double check though. On the new rubber grip, my .475L bruised my left middle knuckle bad! With the older grip that won't happen. I think the new Bisley grip would also prevent this.
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Post by edk on May 25, 2017 22:07:55 GMT -5
The 480 does not have less recoil than the 454. The whole 480 being a pussycat originated in Ruger PR looking to push the round back 15 years ago. They were loading a 325gr XTP to 40Kpsi or so. Load your 400-425 gr LFN to 48Kpsi and have another look-see.
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Post by whitworth on May 26, 2017 4:20:02 GMT -5
The 480 does not have less recoil than the 454. The whole 480 being a pussycat originated in Ruger PR looking to push the round back 15 years ago. They were loading a 325gr XTP to 40Kpsi or so. Load your 400-425 gr LFN to 48Kpsi and have another look-see. I have to respectfully disagree. While I agree the characterization of the .480 delivering a maiden's caresses to the shooter is a false narrative, I don't think it is nearly as abusive. When I performed endurance testing on the .480 Bisley, I was grateful I wasn't performing the same test on the .454. Keep in mind the recoil impulses are distinctly different with the .454 delivering a much sharper jab.
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