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Post by ms44special on Nov 17, 2014 12:51:30 GMT -5
I agree, heavies only for me... Found some 100 grain meisters I may try just cause I need to shoot them up. I really don't shoot jacketed in revolvers, shooting the American eagle just to get brass. Also agree they should've at least filled cylinder window
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Post by ms44special on Nov 17, 2014 17:42:06 GMT -5
Just Chrono'd the meisters. They were a 94 grain flatpoint. Seated to crimp groove they are right at 1.500 oal. They allow a lot of case space though. With accurate #9 and a max load, they went an average 1757fps!!! And were accurate. I should also say all this chrono work is in about 10 degree weather during day. Loads could be somewhat faster in warmer conditions.
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Post by Fowler on Nov 17, 2014 18:02:28 GMT -5
I still think that trying the 140gr Ferminator bullet with 32 mag case (barely fits in the 32 mag case) would be worth really giving it a good workout. I have run this bullet in the 32 mag case to over 1400fps in my Buckeye without issues and I bet you could get very close in this gun if you really wanted to but heck even at 1200fps it would be a heck of a bullet. It has been very accurate in my testing so far, I pounded a bowling ball sized rock at 250 yards with it one afternoon once I sorted the hold out for it, no signs of instability that I could see. I think I hit it 9 shots in a row once I was dialed in.
I have a 105gr MIHA gas checked hollowpoint mold but I dont think it is the answer for the 327, as others have said I think 115gr and up is going to be by far the best option, but I bet that 105gr pill would wreck a jack rabbit at 1750fps, just saying...
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Post by Encore64 on Nov 18, 2014 7:31:05 GMT -5
Just Chrono'd the meisters. They were a 94 grain flatpoint. Seated to crimp groove they are right at 1.500 oal. They allow a lot of case space though. With accurate #9 and a max load, they went an average 1757fps!!! And were accurate. I should also say all this chrono work is in about 10 degree weather during day. Loads could be somewhat faster in warmer conditions. Thanks for a great report. Makes me curious if the lighter bullets will work better with the correct powder than the factory loads with the low flash stuff for short barrels. Had written them off, but this makes me want to try some different loads with them. I have a large supply of the Hornady 85 grn XTPs and Sierra 90 grn HPs, as well as various 100 grn cast for my 20 year old 32 H&R Single Six. I still think the heavy bullets will be the way to go, but suppose it pays not to write off the lighter bullets too soon. I have a Freedom Arms 97 on order in 327 Federal / 32-20 WCF that will be scoped and may just be the ticket for small critters.
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.240 Incinerator
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Post by ramjet on Nov 18, 2014 22:46:49 GMT -5
I worked up a load for my converted S&W 16-4 120 Grain HP GC over 11.7 grains of WW296 Small Rifle a primer average velocity of 1310 FPS 6" barrel. accurate and they drop from the cylinder with ease.
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Post by Encore64 on Nov 19, 2014 3:10:20 GMT -5
All this talk about heavy bullets and short cylinders has gotten me to thinking. So, I emailed Hamilton Bowen and he agreed to deepen the cylinders of my Ruger Buckeye Blackhawk 32 Magnum cylinder to accept the longer 327 Federal cartridge. Knowing full well if Hamilton does it, it will be done correctly, so off it goes. This should allow very long nosed bullets to be seated. Maybe even some of the shorter bullets intended for the 7.62x39, etc.
The Saga Continues.....
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Post by dougader on Nov 19, 2014 5:42:39 GMT -5
Those light 7.62x39 bullets might work especially well in your TC carbine! Very cool!
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Post by williamiorg on Nov 21, 2014 19:50:49 GMT -5
All this talk about heavy bullets and short cylinders has gotten me to thinking. So, I emailed Hamilton Bowen and he agreed to deepen the cylinders of my Ruger Buckeye Blackhawk 32 Magnum cylinder to accept the longer 327 Federal cartridge. Knowing full well if Hamilton does it, it will be done correctly, so off it goes. This should allow very long nosed bullets to be seated. Maybe even some of the shorter bullets intended for the 7.62x39, etc. The Saga Continues..... Ed Harris has posted on the Cast Bullet Association that he is looking ay anothe "Bunnygun" cartridge. Ed is looking at the .38 Special neck down in a 300 Blackout die. For Bunnygun cartridges Ed is not looking for the highest velocities. Ed designed a 130-grain bullet for Accurate Molds. You might take a look at the threadd for dimensions. I buggard the thread up trying to get the dimensions right but finally got there. If you need a longer bullet this one might get it done at .700" long and seated .285" to the crimp groove. Where this cartridge may prove useful is in rebarreling the Marlin Model 62 in 256WM as the chambers are too long and too large in diameter. www.castbulletassoc.org/forum/view_topic.php?id=11240&forum_id=48
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Post by Encore64 on Nov 21, 2014 22:08:04 GMT -5
Williamiorg, that would effectively be the 30 Reece. It is nothing more than a 38 Special necked down to 30 caliber. Correctly headstamped brass and dies are available from Carson Reece.
I have had one of those in a 12" Contender for some years and it's an excellent performer. I am considering a Contender Carbine barrel in is as well.
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Post by williamiorg on Nov 22, 2014 14:00:54 GMT -5
We have a 24" 32 H&R Magnum Contender barrel. Long enough to be a "self opener" when the trigger guard is tripped and quiet enough for a walking around rifle. Ed is just looking around at low velocity, heavy bullet small game cartridges and firearms.
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Post by squawberryman on Nov 25, 2014 13:39:08 GMT -5
Got my gun a month ago and it was minus the grip locating pin in the bottom of the frame so the grips slid everywhere. I measured and made mention of the .013 BC gap as well. Got the gun back today. New barrel, barely any light through the gap, and a new pin. Ruger served me well.
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Post by 2sheriffs on Nov 25, 2014 20:55:30 GMT -5
How much gap is too much. Mine is about .008. I haven't shot it yet, but other than that the gun seems nice. Ron
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Post by Encore64 on Nov 28, 2014 7:23:10 GMT -5
Finally got around to checking out the X-Calibers bullets I load in my 32-20s. They are 120 grn and I am staying with the heavier bullets in mine.
They are sized. 314", same as the throats in my guns. The nose fits in the cylinder like the bullet was designed for the Single Seven gun.
Accuracy is great so far, but more testing to be done.
At $68 per 1000 I am not likely to spend my time casting, sizing or lubing bullets.
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Post by toroflow on Nov 28, 2014 22:14:08 GMT -5
For information purposes, I got a 7.5" 327 and the B/C gap is a tad less than .003" (that .003" shim goes in tight). Finish is flawless and the grips aren't TOO undersized, although they feel "square" in my hand. Overall, I am very happy with it, considering the horror stories of B/C gaps and finishes on some of the early models. For reference, mine is in the 816-021xx serial range. Perhaps they were fitted better as production continued?
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Post by Encore64 on Nov 28, 2014 22:29:04 GMT -5
My 7 1/2" fits the same description. I added a fine bead fiber optic front sight, peep rear blade sight, Belt Mtn base pin and Badger grips. I consider it in my top five revolvers.
The only issue with the 5 1/2" is the very light swirl marks left on the finish. As I continue to polish it with Corbins bore lap compound it improves dramatically.
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