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Post by ohnomrbillk on Jan 2, 2013 18:58:35 GMT -5
My working loads for the Ruger only 45 Colt are: 13gr of HS6 24gr of H110 My working loads for the 475 Linebaugh are: 14gr of HS6 24gr of H110 These all seem to be about right. Burn fairly clean. Fairly forgiving. I'm looking for the same in 500 Linebaugh I did bump into this previous post: singleactions.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=reloading&action=display&thread=2351I have a pile of 440gr LFNGC I have the following powders: 231 H110 4227 2400 HS6 5744 What are your "go to" loads in this bullet weight. I was thinking 16gr for the HS6, but wanted pet loads for the other powders. Any input greatly appreciated. |
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Post by bushog on Jan 2, 2013 23:01:15 GMT -5
I been liking the 2400 loads for the 440gn bullet here: www.sixguns.com/tests/Tt500.htmI guess I should have looked at the link first. I've actually shot the loads. |
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Post by Snyd on Jan 3, 2013 1:34:42 GMT -5
I look forward to watching this thread. Waiting for my 500L but I have casted up some 450gr pb from a Ballisticast mould but am wanting to end up with a 500-525gr as well. Does anyone have any experience with this 500gr gc NOE mould? noebulletmolds.com/orders/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=44&products_id=76I'd also like to hear from anyone shooting a 500+gr plane base boolit. Oh, and how about Lil'Gun? |
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Post by wildwillalaska on Jan 3, 2013 1:41:31 GMT -5
Nothing new here, I pilfered my pets from others including the treatise linked above. The 450gr Ballisticast/Snyd Hammers over 29.5gr H110, and just tried same over 28gr 4227 with good results in sub-zero temps. Montana Bullet Works 440 LFN (arrive @ 468gr) over 29gr of H110, and then a few different 400-420 LFN's over 15-16gr HS6. All with CCI 350's.
Need to find a good load for the 525 grainers in the 500L as well.
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Post by Snyd on Jan 3, 2013 1:59:37 GMT -5
....The 450gr Ballisticast/Snyd Hammers over 29.5gr H110, and just tried same over 28gr 4227 with good results in sub-zero temps. Good to know. Have you tried LilGun? I've tried it in my 454 with good results and hear it's very temp stable. H110+Cold= BadMojo |
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Post by ohnomrbillk on Jan 3, 2013 2:32:50 GMT -5
I talked to John Linebaugh and he suggested
16gr HS6
24gr 2400
28gr IMR 4227
30gr H110
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Post by ohnomrbillk on Jan 3, 2013 2:34:15 GMT -5
....The 450gr Ballisticast/Snyd Hammers over 29.5gr H110, and just tried same over 28gr 4227 with good results in sub-zero temps. Good to know. Have you tried LilGun? I've tried it in my 454 with good results and hear it's very temp stable. H110+Cold= BadMojo Lil Gun has a reputation for eroding forcing cones. I'd be reluctant to work with it. |
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Post by 500fksjr on Jan 3, 2013 2:38:45 GMT -5
Hs6 16grn w/445grn Ballista cast bullet works well out of a 43/4inch....525grn with 10.5grn of unique out of a 4 inch works well....440grn with 28.5grn 4227 works well...All with winchester LP Primers
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Post by wildwillalaska on Jan 3, 2013 3:07:53 GMT -5
I had used and really liked Lil' Gun with my heavy 45 loads until all that forcing cone hoopla came about with FA's experiments and alleged findings. Liked H110 so much that I just shelved the Lil' Gun for the time being. When super cold I typically am just plinking so had used HS6 until just recently playing with the 4227 loads. They seemed to shoot real well and felt similar to my H110 loads, fairly stiff.
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Post by kaytod on Jan 3, 2013 5:45:09 GMT -5
Regarding Lil'gun,
The only place I've found any firsthand knowledge of Freedom's statement is by Mr. Baker on Graybeard Outdoors. I've not seen the article on the tests nor any of the load data/pressures and the details of the experiment. Nor does he give the details there.
It seems that this issue with Lil'gun comes up but there is only the reference to Mr. Baker's statement, yet it seems to have grown into a life of it's own complete with "warping barrels".
I do have Lil'gun but have used it primarily in 22 Hornet. What little I've shot it in revolvers, it has given me a very favorable impression. I just haven't gone there as I shoot more Unique, 2400 and H-110/296 and another powder on my handgun shelf better shine and fill a needed niche.
I'd love to see the actual data on the Lil'gun tests. What bullets, pressures, rate of fire, etc. Not just a reference to it being bad on throats. I've seen a couple gnarly looking throats on revolvers. One attributed to Blue Dot loads, and another, a 44 mag, with light bullets and heavy charges of 2400.
Not meaning to be a doubter, just would like to see the data of firsthand knowledge, not secondhand.
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Post by hammerdown77 on Jan 3, 2013 7:18:38 GMT -5
I don't think I'd worry about Lil'gun with 400+ grain bullets in the Linebaugh, especially since it's only running just a little over half the pressure the Casull is (in FA guns). 60k psi loads using lighter weight bullets with Lil'gun was the reason for forcing cone erosion, if I understood the problem correctly. Same kinda problem you had running lighter bullets in the 357 max, right?
I've shot 420gr loads over 15-16 grains of HS-6, and they were really smoky and dirty. I was using WLPs. Could be lube related as well (Hunter's Supply bullets from Midway). Might try some CCI 350s next time out.
I also tried that bullet over AA#9, but can't remember the charge. As I remember, accuracy was not stellar.
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Post by COR on Jan 3, 2013 7:48:14 GMT -5
Send me all your Lil Gun, god forbid we "erode more forcing cones" just like that evil 357 max did, some of you just need to shoot more and read less and stop regurgitating it like gospel. Mr. Baker himself has stated the loads were hot ones in the 353 mag, hmmm sound familiar?
With 44's and 45's Lil Gun shoots great for me, especially with heavier bullets, sorry for the hi jack but this gets to be nonsense.
To the OP, pet loads are those loads you have tailored to YOUR gun, that's what make them your "pet"... Asking someone else for theirs is a bit screwy to me, but hell, what do I know, at least you burning gunpowder . If anyone needs my address please pm me for powder shipment detail, send me your Lil Gun so your forcing cone can live again!
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Post by COR on Jan 3, 2013 9:51:10 GMT -5
Must be why Ken Water has published Volumes on what shoots well in his guns. A good place to start anyhow. OR Maybe he's just selling books too....hmmmm...whatcha think? A good reloading manual is what I have used, along with some common sense, to develop my own pet loads since I started reloading. Just my ever so humble opinion on the topic of so called "pet loads"... |
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Post by bushog on Jan 3, 2013 9:54:11 GMT -5
WOW!
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Post by Snyd on Jan 3, 2013 11:07:56 GMT -5
Ok, since that worked so well regarding Lil'Gun  .... how about 500-525gr plane base boolits?? |
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.... how about 500-525gr plane base boolits??