120gr. in .32 H&R ???

[petep]

Any of you folks load 120 grain cast bullets in your .32 H&R mag revolvers?

[2 Dogs]

Yes, Fowler has a LBT mold that is set up perfectly for the 32 Single Six cylinder. It excells as far as accuracy and power is concerned. Additionally, the 32 mag is quite efficient with the heavier bullet.

Look over at castboolits.gunloads.com in the active group buys section and you will find Mihec buys for a 100 and 115 grain Hollowpoint cramer style molds.

[kaytod]

I use the 120 and 135 in the 32 H&R mag.

left to right
135 FNGC custom mold
32-20
30 Carbine
32 H&R
120 FNGC custom mold

10.5 of H-110 in the 32 H&R with the 135's will go 1200 fps. ( That was out of a 4" bearcat) They are a bit happier with 10.0 grains.
The little 120's give a bit more room for powder as both bullets are nearly the same nose length. The 135 was origially designed for the 32 H&R in a Bearcat by John Linebaugh. Therefore the nose length was necessarily short. It takes up a bit too much space for my liking in the 32. SO, I have a run of the 120's made as they're a bit better suited for the Bearcat however they really sing in the Single six. The next run will be a 135-140 target weight with the nose length set for the Single six and 32-20 in the blackhawk. Fermin has a group buy already in progress for a similar weight. 135-140 LFNGC

[2 Dogs]

Well, Im pretty dense, in that I sure neglected to mention Todds molds! This in the face of the fact that he sent me some test bullets!! 1000 Pardons Todd!!!! This wont happen again!!!

Additionally, Todds heavier bullet has a better chance of being the correct loaded length to be just right in a 32-20 FA whereas the 32 Sixgun Sledgehammer will be too long. Todd, can you comment??

[kaytod]

Thank you Fermin for the plug, no pardon necessary.
The 135 is the 'prototype' mold that the 120 was born from. I regret that I don't have a Freedom 97......yet. If memory serves me the 97's cylinder is 1.623 long therefore the .290 nose of the 120 or 135 will work being 1.605 OALwith the 32-20. This give you .018 clearance to the end of the cylinder. The 2dogs 32 Sledghammer with it's .4 nose will be too long for the Freedom.

(If dreams weren't dependent on $$ I'd love to have a trio of 97's. One in 32 H&R/32-20 convertable, One in 44 spl, just because that pairing just seems "right" to me. and lastly one in 38 WCF. ( I did call and see if I could get one made, I think I got a blank stare on the other end of the phone....as there was a long pause))

The 32-20 in a blackhawk will easily digest a .370 nose length as will the 32 H&R Single six with a little wiggle room to spare.
If one is loading for the Marlin 1894 in 32-20, the new production guns have NO throat and the 135 proto carried too much nose girth ahead of the crimp groove. Having throated the little levergun they work perfectly. However, the "plan" is the next 32 135-140 grain bullet run will be a bore riding LFNGC with a .370 nose as they should fit in an unalterd Marlin and still function thru the action as well as the blackhawk and single six.

Perhaps IF there is enough interest, and I can coin the production runs excess, I'd do both the 135-140 grain .370 nose length BRLFNGC and a duplicate of the 135 FNGC pictured above with the .290 nose length FNGC and target the 135-140 grain weight.

Thankfully, with some reservations, the quarry I work will temproarily shut down on friday giving me the much needed time to start casting again for all you who have been patiently waiting for samples, and working on the next sets of molds. I wish I could say I make them, but the folks at LEE have been so good to me while getting these things worked out. It's such a blessing to have personal concepts comitted to metal and have the end result work as you planned.

Again thanks to you all, and to you Fermin and Lee for giving me a chance.

[2 Dogs]

These guns in 32 mag, 32-20 and 327 Federal flat SHINE with the heavier bullets. In almost all cases, I was able to drive the heavier bullets nearly as fast as the 100 grain versions. Why bother with them.....? You are in the 357 125 class WITHOUT nearly the blast or recoil in a very tidy sixgun. Whats not to like??

[Fowler]

The bullet Fermin is talking about is the one on the left of this picture. Todd and I were talking about loads in the 32 mag last June and he was shocked by my load but as you can see this bullet at +/- 125gr has most of its weight infront of the crimp groove allowing more powder space than his does. I asked Veral to make the mold to fit to max length on a Single Six cylinder and it allows about .015" of clearance in the cylinder when loaded.


A stiff load of H110 and this bullet is the berries for making the 32 mag into all it can be. This bullet in my Buckeye and the 32-20 cylinder produces velocities that are quite remarkable (the gun unfortunately spits powder from the cylinder gap with top end loads that although they dont bother the targets or the gun hurt your hands and make it so I dont shoot them).

The only issue I have with the load is what am I trying to do with this load? I mean in a 32mag you are not going to make a big game gun out of it, on something like a small Whitetail it might suffice but you wouldn't take it deer hunting to kill a deer with. For a handy trail gun that will be asked to take small game and grouse for the pot it is a loud load and needlessly destructive. For something like Jack rabbits and coyotes it would be a fine bullet/load combo but I find that for 90% of my 32mag shooting these days a 95gr Keith bullet over 3.2gr of W231 works better. Thumps rabbits and Ground Squirrels just fine, doesnt leave my ears ringing for 2 days after a shot if I dont have ear plugs in, and grouse are not very tore up so the eating is still great if I pull the shot low into the body. As a extra bonus this load and my 1300fps load with my 125gr bullet hit the same place at 20 yards from my Vaquero so the option is always there if I want to use ether load...

[petep]

Wow ! Thanks guys !! Will this bullet stabilize OK in a Ruger Single -Six ? I noted where 2 Dogs comments on accuracy;will the little Ruger handle it alright ? ;D ;D

[kaytod]

Hello Fowler! Now I put two and two together and finally arrived at three.....whoohoo

Yep I was a bit suprised when Bill told me his load for the 32. I thought "Dang, I have a three foot extension on my press handle just to seat the bullet over my charges of 110, how does he get all that powder in his?" When he showed me his bullet the lights came on.

[Fowler]

It should be said that Todd and I get basically the same velocity from our loads, it just takes more powder to fill the available case volume to get there. Anyone who knows me knows I am not a max load sort of a guy, my heavy H110 load has no primer flattening at all and the cases fall from the cylinder when you tip the gun up.

Pete yes a Single Six works great with these bullets...

[kaytod]

Yes the "three foot extension" on my press handle is balderdash, Just in case someone might take me seriously.

Also, That is a fine lookin' bullet you have there. Bill and It was a pleasure to meet you.

[2 Dogs]

PeteP, I run that bullet hard out of my Single Sixes. Unlike Fowler who finds utility in lighter loads, I like em to hit HARD. I suspect he is using his differently than I am. Mine gets to execute trapped hogs, finish downed critters, zap distant jacks, and is always on standby for an opportunit at a coyote.

The Ruger 32 Single Six is far stronger than people think.....

[petep]

Thank you very much ! Yall are making me want to get out and shoot and I know I cannot with the FLU !!! ;D ;D ;D

[2 Dogs]

Well, I hope you get well soon and get us a range report!

[wildwillalaska]

Any of y'all try HS-6 in the 32 Mag? See a lot of H110 fans and share in that appreciation, its hair this time of year I always look for something less temp sensitive and see HS6 listed as one if the powders for the lil' 32.