120gr. in .32 H&R ???

[2 Dogs]

I have not, but would love to hear how it works for you!

Todd/Bill, what velocity are you guys seeing from your Single Six 32s with the 120 grain bullet heavy loads??

[Fowler]

Fermin I will have to look at old notes, I know I have not run very many of these loads over the chono. I think I remember getting 1300fps in my 4 5/8" Single six with that heavy bullet but I am not sure.

I know I have run them harder in my Buckeye but I know I didn't ever chrono those loads. I know I ran some "Contender only" loads in the 32/20 cylinder but found that it spits powder from the cylinder gap back into my hands when I got much above 14.0gr of H110 with that bullet in the Buckeye. I tried a handful that were well above that but they were all but unbearable to shoot. I spoke to John Linebaugh one day about it and he suggested trying Lilgun to see if that corrected the issues but I have never gotten around to it.

[2 Dogs]

I dont know that I have chronograped my top 32 loads either. They shoot so well and I cant get any more powder in the case I guess I just figured I was good....

[petep]

Fellows,thanks again for all the help! Can someone now direct a non-caster to where he could buy these bullets?

[AxeHandle]

I have yet to load and fire one but I did get Veral Smith to make me a 32 mold. My thought was that if a GC was necessary I needed more bullet weight. I've got a full cylinder window, custom cylinder 32/327 in the pipeline to be built so Maybe I will actually load and shoot one some day.

[Fowler]

Axe with the benefit of hindsight I wish I had just done a plain base mold instead of the gas check I did. I just dont run my bullets at 327 velocities where the gas check shines. I will say that 4 hole mold of yours will produce piles of bullets in a hurry. All of my 32 molds are 2 holers and they seem to take forever to to empty the pot with when casting...

[Lee Martin]

Todd - you were kind enough to send me some of your 120 and 135 casts a while back. I haven't shot them yet because my Single-Six needs a taller front sight for the heavies (Fermin will be mailing me one soon). How much H110 do you recommend with each?

-Lee
www.singleactions.com
"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time"

[wildwillalaska]

Axe that's a beaut of mold for sure. Throw cute little pills. My wife had a ball at the range with me on Saturday plinking with a little 32 H&R that will get sent somewhere soon. It's little single six that looks like some little kid drug it behind a 4-wheeler for a week. Shoots good though. Awaiting boolits so had to buy some factory ammo--hard to find and WAY expensive.

Petep, check out Rimrock bullets. I asked the same question last week and that's where a couple folks directed me. He has a 125 Keith type SWC and a more Lbt design that was around 113gr if I recall correctly.

Fermin, I will certainly give HS6 a whirl and report.

[kaytod]

Just to be accurate, I'll be shooting some fresh data for both the 120 and 135 in the 32H&R and 32-20 this afternoon. It's snowing outside so I'll have to put the bullet trap in the barn so the chronograph will stay dry.

I'll post the results in a few.

[petep]

Thank you Wildwillalaska,I will take a look at the web site!! ;D

[kaytod]

PeteP also look at Montana bullet works, but look in the 32-20 section in both rifle and pistol sections.

Modification,

Here is the link. Dave does fine work

www.montanabulletworks.com/32_20_Rifle.html

[petep]

Thank you for your help!!! ;D

[2 Dogs]

Wildwill, looking forward to hearing about your results.

[2 Dogs]

Fowler, I can see where you dont need a gas check to take the bull ground squirrels you are so famous for taking in the short grass. Just send me that old mold. Heck, I already broke it anyway. Your buddy Veral will make you a new 4 banger just like Stan with no pesky gas check...

[kaytod]

Friends all,

Here is the data from last night. The temp outside was about 15 degrees, however I would only take out six bullets at a time in my heavy coat pocket from my warm house and shoot. So the ammo temp wasn't a factor.

The firearms used:

Ruger 32 H&R Single Six 4 5/8"
Factory gun with .007 to .008 cyl gap

Ruger 32 H&R Single Six 6.5"
Factory gun with .008 to .009 cyl gap

Ruger Buckeye 32-20 WCF 5"
John Linebaugh massaged with .002 cyl gap

Marlin 1894 32-20 WCF with 20" barrel
Throated to accept LFN style bullets as the factory chamber has virtually no throat.

Bullets used

CCW 135gn FNGC bullet
bullet length: .718
nose to crimp: .290
seating depth: .428

CCW 120gn FNGC bullet
bullet length: .650
nose to crimp: .288
seating depth: .362

32H&R
135 grain bullet
10.5 H-110
Win small pistol primer

SS 4 5/8" 1187 fps / 33 SD
SS 6.5" 1226 fps / 38 SD
Notes: this is a max load and has heavy powder compression.

32 H&R
120 grain bullet
12.0 H-110
Win small pistol primer

SS 4 5/8" 1298 fps / 12 SD
SS 6.5" 1350 fps / 18 SD
Notes: this is a max load and has heavy powder compression albeit not as much as the 135's

32-20 WCF
135 grain bullet
15.0 H-110
CCI Small Rifle primer

Blackhawk 5" 1526 fps / 4 SD
Marlin 1894 20" 2019 fps / 6 SD
Notes: light powder compression, no visible signs of pressure.

32-20 WCF
120 grain bullet
17.0 H-110
CCI Small Rifle Primer

Blackhawk 5" 1644 fps / 8 SD
Marlin 1894 20" 2203 fps / 1 SD
Notes: light powder compression, no visible signs of pressure.

Yes the SD's are correct, even the "1".

Thoughts,
The 32 H&R loads are what I consider maximum. The gun is strong enough to handle more, but the little primers really show you are hitting them. ( Kinda like the old joke. "Hooters is going to start a breakfast diner, staffed with small busted gals, going to be called" Pancake Hooters. ) The primers are pretty flat, well like Pancake hooters.
I've not used Lil'gun yet, IT MAY be a bit better but I don't know. Generally Lil'gun give more velocity and less pressure in cases that are long and skinny. Looking at the data from the Hornet, it acts like a slower burning powder. That all changes when the diameter increases. When you get to the big bore handguns it usually changes places a with H-110. The Lil'gun acts like it's a faster powder than 110.
The other thing I've not tried is different primers. I have all Win Small Pistol. Not tried any mag primers as I don't think it needs them, the little powder column is only about .430 in length, about the same as the shank on the 135's. Nor have I tried a Small rifle primer.
The 32-20 is just a delight. It screams "take me hunting" In the rifle the little round is nipping on the heels of the 7.62x39 round. Now I have visions of shooting hogs in south texas with the 32-20 combination ;D

Hope this helps guys

Todd