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Post by 2 Dogs on Jan 1, 2013 10:44:04 GMT -5
Todd, I have had really good luck with the CCI primers. I believe thier cups are just a little bit harder/thicker. Your velocity is right on par with what I am seeing in my sixguns. Yes, the Single Six 32 is very strong. My buddy Chuck was able to beat one up pretty good but he was in the obscene load range. I suggest you give the CCI small rifle primers a try in the 32-20s and the CCI small pistol magnum primers a try in the 32/327 Federal. I am seeing good results. You dont mention accuracy, but mine all shoot great!
These loads all bring the 32s up to low end 357 levels without nearly the recoil and blast. Additionally, the sixguns are neat and tidy and far easier to shoot well. Whats not to like?
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Post by kaytod on Jan 1, 2013 11:01:47 GMT -5
The little 135's really need to be stood on to shoot well. Accuracy starts to come alive at 9.5 grains. The 10.5 grain load will put 5 about the size of a Quarter at 25 yards. Below 9.5 they yaw in a factory single six. The 120's shoot better when I do my part. I was out west this summer and had the 6.5" SS version with me. The 50m pigs were quite boring. 6 o'clock hold and down they go. In the 32-20 my brother in law shoots a local shoot and chicken silhouettes at 200 yards aren't safe.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jan 1, 2013 11:27:30 GMT -5
I'm sure that is a stabilization issue, I think the 32s are best with 120s and the 32-20 and 327 will shine with the heavies.
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Post by kaytod on Jan 1, 2013 11:37:11 GMT -5
Yep, stabilization issue, When John Linebaugh built the little 32 Bearcat, the barrels he used were a bit faster in twist. ( 1 in 12?) I think the factory 32's are 1 in 16.
I agree, most folks will find the 120-125's a plenty in the H&R, I think it's the best balance, and yes the 32 WCF shines brightly with the heavies.
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Post by blue45colt on Jan 3, 2013 12:46:06 GMT -5
This I think is my first posting...been lurking for a while.
I am following this thread with great interest. I have a couple of .32 H&R conversions. One a Ruger OM single six by Alan Harton and the other a S&W model 19 by Jim Stroh that I have been reloading with 100 gr. bullets at around 900/1000 fps.
Thinking that I would like to investigate the heavier bullets/loads being discussed here but have a question. On other threads over on the Beartooth Bullet forum it was mentioned that loads of this level in the .32 H&R tend to loosen primer pockets fairly quickly (within 4-5 reloads if I remember correctly). Are any of you fellows seeing this happen with the .32 H&R at these loadings?
The consenses in that discussion seem to be that from a brass life standpoint, the .32 H&R is better suited to 100 gr. bullets at maybe a max of 1100/1150 fps. The .327 Federal on the other hand does not show this short brass life with this type of load.
Thanks
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jan 3, 2013 12:51:54 GMT -5
I am not really seeing anything like loose primer pockets, but thats just in my guns. I also have a cosiderable amount of 32 magnum brass, so it takes awhile before I have shot my cases enough times that I might see loose primer pockets. Your mileage of course may vary. Again, I am using the magnum pistol primer in my loads, I think they take the additional pressure better. I guess if you are one who expects your brass to last forever, then you might want to shoot these loads sparingly.
Todd, have you say loaded one case up 10 times with these loads to see how the primer pockets act?
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petep
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Post by petep on Jan 3, 2013 13:22:15 GMT -5
Are these guys using Starline brass or something else?I get 6 plus loads from my Single-Six with 100 grain XTP's and a case filled with 296 and even then the brass is still fine for milder loads with no primer pocket problems.I did see some primer pocket problems(say that real fast four times!!!) with Federal brass.
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Post by Fowler on Jan 3, 2013 14:15:14 GMT -5
I have never notice primer pockets getting soft or weird after dozens of loadings. All of mine are Starline and I have loaded them enough to crack the mouths of a few now but again most of mine are not run heavy and hard but Im not going to worry about it if I want to run them that way.
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Post by blue45colt on Jan 3, 2013 16:12:48 GMT -5
My understanding is that Starline brass is being used. I went back and re-read some of the information and it seems that the issue of early primer pocket loosening happened when using powders with burn rates of 2400 or less. You fellows seem to be using powders with slower rates...maybe that is the answer.
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Post by Fowler on Jan 3, 2013 17:35:07 GMT -5
I have had some primers "pierced" with heavier doses of 2400 in the 32 mag with the 120gr bullet but the primer pocket seemed none the worse for wear afterwards...
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Post by kaytod on Jan 3, 2013 17:57:28 GMT -5
Primer pockets still tight, numerous loadings, don't know the count.
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petep
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Post by petep on Jan 4, 2013 15:45:10 GMT -5
I have noticed many of you guys use H110,any reason not to use 296?
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jan 4, 2013 16:28:58 GMT -5
No, I wouldnt hesitate to use 296 or Lil Gun.
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Post by Fowler on Jan 4, 2013 17:40:34 GMT -5
I have noticed many of you guys use H110,any reason not to use 296? 296 and H110 are the exact same powder sold under different brand names...
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petep
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Post by petep on Jan 4, 2013 18:08:48 GMT -5
I was thinking the two were the same but it never hurts to ask!! ;D ;D I will have to try some Li'l Gun.
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