300gr WFNGC .45 colt in 6 shot Ruger

[subsonic]

I'm loading 23gr of H110 behind a 300gr WFNGC with .400" nose in my 6 shot Ruger Bisley. This is a Ross Seyfried quoted load. Is anybody going above this? I suspect that I can load 24, maybe 25gr and still be safe. Can anybody confirm or deny this? I have no pressure signs at 23 gr and would like to get 1300fps insted of the 1250 I'm getting now.

[greygt]

I've used that bullet/load of 23gr before and had cases that stuck and flattened primers. I'm sure the question will be brought up what will the extra 50 fps do beyond the 1250 fps load?

[Fowler]

What would 1300fps get you that 1250fps does not? I mean the gun might hold together but the wear and tear the gun takes just is completely pointless. Hell a 300gr bullet at 1100fps will go through a elk end to end so what do you realistically get here? Heck if 24gr of H110 was a good load in a Ruger cylinder then Ross would have been shooting it not 23 grains.

If you want a 5 shot 45 colt get a FA 454 or send your Bisley into one of the top smiths to make it into a 5 shooter and call it good. Asking a factory Ruger to get you there is the wrong tactic.

[chaz]

Think this will help you answer the question...

www.customsixguns.com/writings/dissolving_the_myth.htm

23 grs looks to be max.

[subsonic]

Sept 25, 2011 22:57:08 GMT -5 chaz said:

Think this will help you answer the question...

www.customsixguns.com/writings/dissolving_the_myth.htm

23 grs looks to be max.

Toward the top of that page a 310gr swc is shhown @ 23.5gr and at the bottom 310-320gr is show @24gr as a "go to" load. The WFN with .400" nose seats more shallow than a SWC and leaves more powder space.

Hodgdon shows 23.5gr behind a CP 335gr that seats a little deeper (.400 nose there too) and is heavier. They show 24gr with the 325gr.

See where I'm going with this?

I have tried standard primers instead of magnum and even those are not flat in my gun. From what I have seen, standard primers are easier to flatten than magnums and also reduce velocity. And reduce group size by an inch @ 50yds.

The main thing I'm looking for is more accuracy and I want to know if I can try 23.5 and 24gr in my load development test.

1300 fps will keep the velocity up at further distance and flatten trjectory by a tiny amount (I admit that part is a pretty weak argument).

[subsonic]

I'm going to load some @ 23.5, 24, and 24.5 and chrono. I'll stop when I get 1300fps or pressure signs.

[carl]

Years ago I settled on 22.0 gr. of WW-296 sparked by a CCI mag. primer. If I want more power I move up to a Freedom Arms revolver.

Carl

[tek4260]

I have shot several 24.0gr under a 300gr cast in my Blackhawks with no pressure signs. I was getting leading so I backed down to 22.0. I haven't checked the speed, but I had no pressure signs in MY relolvers. FWIW, this was the "Ruger Only" Mihec HP. An LBT may sit deeper in the case.

I don't think you can get enough H110 into the case to hurt(destroy) a Blackhawk without compressing the charge.

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[whitworth]

Sept 26, 2011 6:37:25 GMT -5 tek4260 said:

I have shot several 24.0gr under a 300gr cast in my Blackhawks with no pressure signs. I was getting leading so I backed down to 22.0. I haven't checked the speed, but I had no pressure signs in MY relolvers. FWIW, this was the "Ruger Only" Mihec HP. An LBT may sit deeper in the case.

I don't think you can get enough H110 into the case to hurt(destroy) a Blackhawk.

I have to agree.

[Lee Martin]

I've used that bullet in my Accusport quite a bit. Seems to like 21.5 of H110. 22.5 was where I topped out. 23.0 - 24.0 showed more pressure than I like.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com

[doghawg]

I guess I'm getting old and wimpy but have settled on milder loads for this years deer hunting. In the Accusport Bisley I'll use 300 gr. RCBS GC's at 12 BHN over 18 gr. of 2400. Velocity just tops 1100 fps and (center plate) accuracy is very good. I'll use the same bullet in the .454 Mod 83 over 21 gr of 2400 for 1280 fps.
The BFR .475 will get a 400 gr. (412 actual) RCBS plain base over 14.5 gr. of HS6 for ....again....1100 fps. I've got two deer tags this year and those are the loads I'm taking.

[whitworth]

Sept 26, 2011 9:38:07 GMT -5 doghawg said:

I guess I'm getting old and wimpy but have settled on milder loads for this years deer hunting. In the Accusport Bisley I'll use 300 gr. RCBS GC's at 12 BHN over 18 gr. of 2400. Velocity just tops 1100 fps and (center plate) accuracy is very good. I'll use the same bullet in the .454 Mod 83 over 21 gr of 2400 for 1280 fps.
The BFR .475 will get a 400 gr. (412 actual) RCBS plain base over 14.5 gr. of HS6 for ....again....1100 fps. I've got two deer tags this year and those are the loads I'm taking.

And I am sure they will work like a charm.......looking forward to the reports!

[nframe]

Well...I don't agree with having to invest the money in a FA or custom Ruger to do what you're wanting to do. While I have the above revolvers, I can tell you there is a great deal to be done with a stock Ruger, and a stock 6-shot Ruger will digest the specified load without a hitch. FA's and custom revolvers are cool and neat to own and shoot, but my basically stock sixguns get used far more than any other. I also don't agree that for most hunting applications that a 1300 fps. 300 gr. CB to be any more an efficient killer than one at 1200. Having killed a lot game with far less, I feel qualified to make this statement. Lot of variables to take into consideration as well, as shooting lengthwise through an elk is not always a given, regardless of bullet weight or velocity. Then again, I agree it's not necessary to shoot full length of any animal to kill it.

[bigbores]

I like many hear don't think 1300fps will be any better then 1250fps,
Ross Seyfried shoot a lot of top-end loads so bumping up one of his loads is not advisable.
You might be able to have the barrel/cylinder gap tightened up and gain 50 or more fps.

[2 Dogs]

So Bill, you've shot thru 100 Elk too???