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Post by 38 WCF on Jun 8, 2011 9:47:29 GMT -5
45 Colt.
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Post by Fiveshooter on Jun 9, 2011 21:50:26 GMT -5
.45 Colt All the Way
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Post by mworkmansr on Jan 15, 2012 21:23:08 GMT -5
Hmmer; I agree with you. Where did all these zombie 45 Colt guys come from? Especially the 9mm zombies. There must have been a solar flare that scrambled all the pistoleros brains and made them all stumble around saying, "45 Colt. 45 Colt". I have several of those, but they were purchases of opportunity. All my 44 Specials were bought by design and on purpose. Let's be more selective. Have everybody with an opinion list numbers of handguns by caliber. That will be their true opinion. Honor system. Here goes:
45 Colt 2 44 Special 4 9 mm 1 380 ACP 2 45 ACP 3 44 Mag 1 3rd model dragoon 3 3 pounder Parrot 1 22 lr 1
There's my vote.
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Post by whitworth on Jan 15, 2012 22:06:08 GMT -5
My zombie choice is also the .45 Colt........and the .500 LInebaugh. ;D
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Post by 500fksjr on Jan 15, 2012 22:24:31 GMT -5
My zombie choice is also the .45 Colt........and the .500 LInebaugh. ;D +1 ;D
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Post by subsonic on Jan 15, 2012 22:34:21 GMT -5
Since I have to pick one, it would be the .44 mag. You can get it in guns small enough to CCW (barely) and it will kill anything I might point it at. There are a lot of different guns chambered in it, so I could own several different guns. It can be toned down to .44spl levels for plinking and conserving components. It's easy to get stuff for. There's a lot of load data for it. I don't have to worry about slipping a Ruger Only load into a weaker gun. It is a little more capable than the smaller calibers when hunting and most out of the box .44s seem to be put together with better dimensions than .45 colts, at least the ones I've owned and looked at.
9mm would be my very last pick. Ammo would cost more because you have to carry and shoot more of it since you have to dump half a mag into anything to kill it. And I hate chasing brass from bottom feeders.
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Post by Griff on Jan 16, 2012 0:01:33 GMT -5
Let's see, the man asks about caliber and he gets all these responses about cartridges.... But... I'm goin' .452, as I have more launch platforms for it than anything else. ;D 3 rifles & 4 revolvers in .45 Colt, and 5 semi-autos in .45ACP!
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Post by magman on Jan 16, 2012 8:27:57 GMT -5
44 caliber!!!
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Post by humphrey on Jan 16, 2012 13:33:19 GMT -5
First off its one caliber. But once caliber is meaningless without the cartridge behind it.
To be one caliber/cartridge it has to do everything, maybe not great, but everything none the less.
Everything constitutes not only every activity we partake in but in every platform we would need to use. Mind you not great, but once again it just has to work, none the less. An Encore will feed anything, but a Glock wont! In short big rifle cartridges are out as a .308 wouldn't feed out of anything even remotely close to being a pistol over a sub-gun.
Bore size can't be too small, otherwise we have limited its effectiveness of its stopping power. Theoretically kinetic energy can be said to make up for this, but I'd rather shoot 44's at a deer/beer/bad guy then .223's. But at the same time the larger bore start to limit case capacity as well as being a rimmed cartridge. Then of course the rimmed cartridge can cause feeding issues in miss designed systems resulting in very unwanted consiquences.
The 9mm looks good till you get looking at its max capabilities. Out of a 16" Rifle/Carbine (and I do have one of those) its still pretty anemic. A 125 gr bullet zipping along at 1700 fps is effective, but so is a 357 mag out of a 8" barrel. Now the 40 S&W is a great upgrade, the 45 Auto not so much, and the 10 mm Auto would be Great. But we still end up with an issue. Even though the performance level of the cartridge, the 10 mm Auto in this case, is effective it still doesn't touch the big bore Capabilities due to case capacity to propel the larger bullets at more effective speeds out of a Long Gun. So now we are at the point of needing something with just a tad more case capacity to hold some more powder but at the same time not getting to the point of using to much space within the firearm.
Now Lee brought up a good medium with the 41, but once again we hit into a rimmed cartridge and the length of the finished round gets to be to long. excluding rimmed cartridges and longer ones in that area (38-40, 401 Herter's, etc.) we end up with something along the lines of the 10 mm Magnum. While still a little long, it could be made to feed out of most pistols by altering the grip angle similiar to what one sees in a Coonan .357. Also it can be loaded down much lower then needed and with the .400 bore size 135 gr bullets are still an option. Aswell in arms with large enough magwells and chambers or revolvers with enough length, the 10mm mag has enough length to allow a 300 gr bullet to be seated to a length of 1.540" to 1.710" to cover similiar loadings in the 41 mag realms.
With the 10 mm Magnum, those that want high capacity Handguns will still have them. Those that wanted a plincker can still have one. Those that want a rifle can still have it. High powered handguns would still exist aswell.
Its a good compromise, but aslong as we have options it is still just a compromise.
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Post by jamesjames on Jan 16, 2012 18:42:14 GMT -5
.44
Man, I sure missed this thread the first time around. I'm another one of those who read you guys a lot and hope to chime in when I can. I got steered into .44 special/magnum by a friend who thought the special would be a good bigger bore for somebody just starting out.
Originally I, like so many who are new to the sport, only wanted one gun, and later, one caliber. When I wanted a cowboy revolver and carbine combination that could do most things, again i was looking for one caliber. My friend said I was nuts, that guns are like tools and that different ones do different jobs. So I forgot about the cowboy idea and got into a defensive shotgun, and then ARs, and then a 7mm Mauser and handguns in .38 special, 9mm, .40 SW, .45ACP and on and on.
I finally settled in on .44 special because my Smith 329PD is too brutal for the magnums it's chambered for. I added a Colt SAA in .44 special and am building another Colt hybrid in .44special. Then came a Winnie '94AE in the venerable 30-30. A couple of lever actions later I got a Marlin '94ss in .44 magnum.
I've come a very circuitous route back to a carbine in .44 magnum and side arms in .44special. The result is a great kit that I love and a caliber that I shoot really well. Its brushy and rugged here in coastal Oregon and .44s do everything I need.
Somebody once said that the .44 special is an inherently accurate cartridge. Was it Elmer Keith? John Taffin? Both? For plinking, self defense, deer hunting... I think I found a caliber that does it all for me.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jan 16, 2012 18:59:33 GMT -5
Count? Surely you didn't say "count" If I wasn't actually embarassed about how many 500L and 475L revolvers I have I might write it down.. I think there are some government groups that want that number too!
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Post by dlhredfoxx on Jan 16, 2012 21:30:04 GMT -5
45 Colt, followed by 44 mag.
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Post by tullymars on Jan 16, 2012 21:41:50 GMT -5
Count? Surely you didn't say "count" If I wasn't actually embarassed about how many 500L and 475L revolvers I have I might write it down.. I think there are some government groups that want that number too! I'll help with your embarrassment problem. Send a few of those a couple of miles north, and we'll store em for you. While I'm here let me cast a vote for the .44 as a do all caliber. Magnum or special.
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Post by cable on Jan 18, 2012 12:19:49 GMT -5
44 although i shoot mostly reloads, with the 44 i can pick up a wide variety of ammo, from light loads to specialized heavy loads, almost anywhere. even our local walmart has buffalo bore, and other high end 44 ammo. that said, i mostly carry a 45 colt Reeder ruger when out hunting or otherwise in the woods.
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Post by 500fksjr on Jan 18, 2012 20:44:13 GMT -5
500 Linebaugh you can load them up or down....
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