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Post by 45MAN on Jul 17, 2024 15:20:36 GMT -5
Heck, I’d like have 45man’s 35 Remington. I was pretty dang impressed last year, I started looking at them but couldn’t find one in my part of the world. I REALLY GAVE THE MARLIN A WORKOUT LAST SEASON, FOR 2024-2025 I AM LEANING TOWARDS THE 45 COLT TRAPPER, ESPECIALLY SINCE I GOT AN ASS KICKING LOAD WITH THE 300gr SIERRA FP. ALSO I AM WAITING ON A No. 1 IN 405 WINCHESTER AND, IF IT SHOOTS WITH THE FACTORY HORNADY 300gr FP AMMO, IT MAY GET PLENTY OF HUNTING TIME.
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Post by 45MAN on Aug 4, 2024 16:01:16 GMT -5
BIG MEDICINE FOR THE MONTE (THE BRUSH)linkRECENTLY ACQUIRED RUGER No. 1H IN 405 WINCHESTER, WEARING A LEUPOLD 1.5-5x20mm. MAN THESE LARGE CALIBERS KICK BUT I THINK I GOT 'er SIGHTED IN ABOUT AN 1" HIGH AT 104yds WITH HORNADY 300gr FP FACTORY AMMO. PLAN TO GIVE IT SOME FIELD TIME AT PDM. WITH THIS ACQUISITION I CAN MOVE MY '95 REPRO IN 405.
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Post by bigbore5 on Aug 4, 2024 20:33:43 GMT -5
I've seen larger plains game, including giraffe taken cleanly with the 405. Didn't do so hot on the leopard, but the client mistakenly chambered a solid instead of the soft point, so can't blame the cartridge. His tip even covered some of the stitches!🙄
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Post by bigbrowndog on Aug 4, 2024 21:32:25 GMT -5
I've seen larger plains game, including giraffe taken cleanly with the 405. Didn't do so hot on the leopard, but the client mistakenly chambered a solid instead of the soft point, so can't blame the cartridge. His tip even covered some of the stitches!🙄 ‘‘Twas but a scratch??? Trapr
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Post by bigbore5 on Aug 4, 2024 21:44:12 GMT -5
Couple scratches. The trackers kindly wore it down a touch before it got to the other ph and myself. The customer chose to not accompany us into the wait-a-minute thicket. He didn't want the briars to scratch him.
Guess you never really lived until you get to beat a playful putty-tat off you with the stock of a 12ga!
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Post by squawberryman on Aug 5, 2024 7:43:00 GMT -5
Uh, no.
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Post by bigmuddy on Aug 5, 2024 9:20:09 GMT -5
Great pic Rey! The #1’s are handsome rifles and yours is especially so. My 45-70 knocks my fillings loose with heavy loads. I’m sure the 405 would too. Mine gets “trapdoor” loads only now.
I’m betting we see more of that one with some critter pics. 😀
Dan
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Post by hunter966 on Aug 5, 2024 11:18:54 GMT -5
Couple scratches. The trackers kindly wore it down a touch before it got to the other ph and myself. The customer chose to not accompany us into the wait-a-minute thicket. He didn't want the briars to scratch him. Guess you never really lived until you get to beat a playful putty-tat off you with the stock of a 12ga! He didn’t want to go into the briars after he caused the situation? Not cool. Would you tell the story of what happened?
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Post by bigbore5 on Aug 5, 2024 21:28:07 GMT -5
It's just a typical story. Client was some British aristocrat. Lorde Dummy of foolishness for all I remember about him. Piotr Van Dersham was his ph for the time he was there.
Typical night setup on a bait. About an hour before dawn they light up a nice male leopard on the bait. About a 50yds shot from a good rest, but His Lordship was about to pee his pants. Pulled the shot, hitting far back through one lung instead of the shoulder. I get there just before sunrise and we begin the track with His Royal PITA in the rear, no round in the chamber, of course. We'd had enough by then.
After a couple hundred meters, the trackers signal they have spotted it in a wait-a-minute thicket. Man, I hated those briars! Anyway, we followed the two senior trackers in after circling and knowing it was in there. The senior guide had changed rifles to his 450 double and hollow points. I prefer a 12ga Benelli with #4 buck. We found a game trail about half way through the tangle of briars to follow in.
The trackers, two highly experienced 5th generation brothers who were born and lived within a few miles of there were caught hard when the cat came from under a capsa bush about 25ft from the side of the trail. Mostly legs and arms, but one's face got it pretty good.
At the charge, the other ph and I immediately broke left and right. We are taught this to set up a cross fire on the cat, rather than shooting up trail and probably hitting a tracker. It was just so close and these animals are amazingly agile and quick. They may not be as deadly as Mbogo or Simba if they reach the hunter, but they get there more often!
After whirlwinding through the trackers, it broke towards Piotr who only got one shot off that peeled a line of hide but didn't get vitals. It leaped, but he managed to get his rifle crosswise and out to block most of it. It clawed his shoulder and raked his stomach but he had his arms extended enough to keep from spilling his guts out. It kicked off him and came for me.
I managed to swing up trail and to the side enough where I had a shot as it jumped off Piotr. It was so quick, I hit too far back, but one of the pellets hit the spine a few inches behind the last rib from the top of it's back it was so close. This put it into a ball of claws and teeth that rolled up to my legs. Got bit two or a dozen times and my pants were shredded and a fair bit of skin got scratched all to hell. I brought the shotgun butt down on it a few times and managed to get a few steps away.
By this time Piotr was back on his feet and put a few rounds of 357 in it as I gave it two more with the 12ga. That settled it finally.
His Lordship complained to the outfitter, Charles Zimmerman, that his "trophy" was damaged. Ol' Charlie nearly damaged the client's hide, if not for two of his brothers intervention. The Duke of Dummy was informed that his safari with us was at it's end as was his welcome. Everyone was back to in a few weeks except one of the trackers took about two months and a couple of surgeries.
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Post by sixshot on Aug 6, 2024 1:37:09 GMT -5
I'll bet all of this happened in less time than it did for you to tell the story, yikes! A wounded Leopard would be a formidable foe. I've watched some of those charges & those things are blink quick.
Dick
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Post by bigbore5 on Aug 6, 2024 3:17:14 GMT -5
Probably about a minute. They are amazingly fast and strong. Without it already having a hole through a lung for nearly an hour or so it would have been much worse.
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Post by 45MAN on Aug 6, 2024 7:12:05 GMT -5
ON MY 2nd LEOPARD WE DID A NIGHTIME FOLLOW-UP, FIRST ON FOOT, THEN IN THE LAND CRUISER UNTIL THE RIGHT FRONT WHEEL OF THE LAND CRUISER FELL IN A HOLE. WE GOT OUT, INSPECTED, AND DECIDED TO GET OUT AND GO BACK TO CAMP AND RETURN IN THE MORNING. AS IT TURNED OUT, THE LEOPARD WAS A FEW YARDS AWAY BUT DID NOT ATTACK. MY SHOT, WITH A COR-BON 305gr FP PENETRATOR AT 454 MV OUT'a 45 COLT CASE, HAD CLIPPED HIS SPINE AND HIS REAR LEGS WERE EFFECTED.
NEXT MORNING 3 PH's AND ME plus ALL THE CREW RETURN, THE 3 PH's AND ME, ARMED WITH SHOTGUNS AND RIFLES, WALKED 4 ACROSS TOWARDS THE AREA WHERE WE THOUGHT THE LEOPARD WAS (LOOKED LIKE DOC HOLLIDAY AND THE EARP BROTHERS WALKING TO THE OK CORRAL) AND THE LEOPARD CHARGES, YOU COULD TELL HIS REAR LEGS WERE BUGGERED, HE WENT DOWN IN A HAIL OF GUNFIRE. HE WAS A BIG LEOPARD, 166lbs. THANK GOD IT ENDED WELL AND NO ONE GOT HURT.
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Post by hunter966 on Aug 6, 2024 9:52:56 GMT -5
I bet that was a rodeo and a half. Like Sixshot, I’ve watched some attacks on the web and it’ll get your attention.
Glad no one was badly hurt though.
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Post by bigbore5 on Aug 6, 2024 11:05:31 GMT -5
I've had some good ones, but that's the only one that left scars. Cape buff sliding to a stop with nose less than a finger's thickness from my lead foot. Elephant turning land cruiser onto it's side. Lioness sticking her head into the tent. Several close hippo brushes.
And it really doesn't pay well. TIP YOUR PH! He counts on the tip money.
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Post by sixshot on Aug 6, 2024 11:45:59 GMT -5
Rey, maybe that was just Curly Bill wanting to snuggle up to your leg, he wasn't armed!!!
Dick
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