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Post by bula on Feb 17, 2024 12:25:04 GMT -5
Am not a long range shooter. I've been asked by younger friend to weigh in on, add my opinion to those he is gathering, to make a decision. He is past MIL, 10mtn..as was an Uncle of mine. He is asking about a long range rifle set-up. He is not a hunter. Paper and steel will be his targets. If somewhere down the road he finds a specific game he likes, he can get a more specific set-up for it. He doesn't handload now. At this point, I offered the thought of trying the 6.5mm bores. My question, the Creedmore vs the ARC, which more likely to stay available ? More companies loading, chambering ? We are going to step out for the evening, I'll check back in here later, after dark. Thanks.
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Post by rangersedge on Feb 17, 2024 13:05:58 GMT -5
There are a lot of 6.5 Creedmoors out there.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 17, 2024 13:07:58 GMT -5
I didn't even know there was a 6.5 ARC...
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Post by AxeHandle on Feb 17, 2024 15:29:55 GMT -5
6.5 is a SD/BC, barrel life, recoil, 1000 yard sweet spot found by the HP rifle shooters over 50 years ago... The CM was developed for those same 1000 yards shooters.
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Post by squawberryman on Feb 17, 2024 15:35:15 GMT -5
CM ammo is at Rural King and many other places
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Post by singleaction on Feb 17, 2024 16:49:55 GMT -5
I suspect the OP meant to say 6mm arc. The 6mm arc has the same ballistics roughly as the 6.5 Creedmoor. However, the Creedmoor brings more energy to target. I believe the 6.5 Creedmoor is far more ubiquitous, and will remain so for a very long time. The new 22 arc, on the other hand, will likely become more popular than the 6 mm arc, and will become another round you can find at most local Walmarts. It’s that good.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 17, 2024 16:53:37 GMT -5
The 6mm ARC is available in the Contender. I seriously considered one. I have a box of 7500 6mm V-Max Bullets that need to be shot in something.
I LOVE anything 6.5mm...
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Post by bigbrowndog on Feb 17, 2024 18:17:51 GMT -5
For hunting stick with the Creedmoor, the 6ARC is not in the same terminal ballistics arena, it may be in exterior ballistics but that ends once impact is made. Technically a 6.5ARC would essentially be a 6.5 Grendel. Trapr
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Post by zeus on Feb 17, 2024 19:16:15 GMT -5
6.5CM hands down. People like to give it a hard time but in the end, it’s a great shooting round. We’ve shot steel with it past a mile. Hard to catch misses at those distances with the small bullets to make corrections but it can do it. Ammo is abundant if you don’t reload.
If they reload, find the 140 Berger Hybrid and some H4350. Magic combination in every barrel I’ve fired it in.
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Post by cas on Feb 17, 2024 19:41:47 GMT -5
I still haven't run across any ARC brass for sale. I had to buy several boxes of factory ammo just to get some.
ETA: Hooray, I have found some. $70 bucks for 100. Oof.
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Post by bula on Feb 17, 2024 19:54:34 GMT -5
Thank You, guys. The little I've read, seems to give the 6.5 CM an edge on the other options. I'll get to shoot a Savage 110 6.5 CM rig next month. A nephews Ruger too. A 400 yd target going up, there. My camp maxes out at 200 yds..
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Post by revolvercranker on Feb 17, 2024 23:43:02 GMT -5
I think the 6.5 CM was designed with a more efficient case to try to burn all the powder in the case and also reduce case erosion. I have one on an AR 10. It's very accurate and the cartridge is very effecient. Okay with that said I built a 260 Remington. I'm going to tell you what's the matter with the 260. Remington targeted it mainly to shoot the 120 grain bullet AND they put the cartridge on too short of an action. I say this because if they would have throated it for a 140 grain bullet and make a longer action, thus longer magazine it would kick blow the doors off the 6.5 CM. It would have too because it has a wee bit more powder capacity. The 6mm ARC is a nothing but the 6.5 Grendel necked down as said. My friend Arne Brennen who was mainly reponsible to the creation of the 6.5 Grendel said all along that the Grendel would have been a better cartridge for long range shooting if it was a 6mm.
Hey encore I like 6.5's too. Got the 6.5 Jap, got the 6.5 Cacano, got the 6.5 Swede, got the 6.5x54MS, got the 6.5 CM, and got the 260 which is a 6.5.
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Post by bula on Feb 18, 2024 8:21:02 GMT -5
I see a Ruger Precision rifle in 6.5 ARC, CM's, a Lapua, chamberings. Not sure what my friend wants to spend yet. The Ruger Precision a good value for performance ?
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Post by bula on Feb 18, 2024 12:05:34 GMT -5
Singleaction, I was in error, mis-read my friends text. He bought the Savage 110 in 6.5CM, but suggested that my friend wanting to purchase now, might rather have the 6.5 PRC. I do believe there is a 6.5 ARC too, think I saw that amongst the Ruger Precision rifles offerings ? The CM does seem most popular, available, and most chambered. I would, and think he will, appreciate the odds of continued factory support as a major factor in choosing. Any and all opinions will get read, considered, and Thank You !
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Post by bula on Feb 18, 2024 13:03:30 GMT -5
A quick google to AmmoSeek shows clear advantage to the 6.5mm CM. More choices than the ARC and PRC together. Averages 10 cents cheaper than the next most available, and that might be the Grendel, not even on the radar for friends or me, at the moment.
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