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Post by habanero on Jan 7, 2023 5:05:10 GMT -5
Got an Sbh in .44 mag incoming and I think I need a companion rifle for it.
So far it looks like a 77/44 or Chiappa 1892 Alaskan would fit the bill.
Anyone have any experience with those,or want to suggest something else?
I must admit I’m a bolt action guy,but I’ve owned a couple of Marlin lever actions.
Light weight,quality and able to withstand heavy loads would be preferable.
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Post by jgt on Jan 7, 2023 8:57:35 GMT -5
The 92 with a heavy load is a strong gun. The way the butt stock is configured on most of them, the end result using a heavy loaded 44 magnum is a nasty painful recoil. I recommend you pick something with a shotgun type butt stock that a recoil pad can be added to for the 44 magnum cartridge. In a rifle, a standard 44 magnum load can be plenty to take deer or hog. It will also be more comfortable to shoot.
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Post by bula on Jan 7, 2023 9:04:56 GMT -5
I went the Marlin 1894 route when I decided I needed a companion long gun. A handy 77/44 seems a good idea too. As far as the heavy loads, load data is mostly quite similar but I have seen rifle data lower across the board in one manual. I'd let the barrel length give you 200-ish fps more and leave it at that. Lever or bolt, you may not be able to run bullets as long nosed as the SBH. What do you use in the SBH ? Hunt ?
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 7, 2023 9:11:09 GMT -5
I went with a Ruger #1 for the reasons Bula mentioned. Plus, I just have a fetish for Ruger #1s.
I can shoot 44 Russian, Special and Magnum with no problems. Also, the 44 Mag can be seated with Long Nosed Bullets without issues.
The #1 can hold massive pressures. I use the 50k PSI Data Brian Pearce did for the Redhawk/Handloader Magazine years ago...
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Post by rocdoc on Jan 7, 2023 10:29:04 GMT -5
You left out 44 Colt, Starline makes it
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Post by needsmostuff on Jan 7, 2023 10:41:16 GMT -5
Don't forget other single shots. H&R/NEF made them for years, but they are getting a little hard to find.
I recently looked at a CVA single shot in 44 and regret not buying it. It appeared quite capable.
Not the panache of packin a lever but certainly svelte and nimble.
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 7, 2023 10:48:33 GMT -5
Henry makes a number of 44 Magnum Rifles. Single Shot and Lever Actions...
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Post by habanero on Jan 7, 2023 10:52:10 GMT -5
Sbh is for target and hunting.
Yeah,forgot single shots.Which I shouldn’t as I love’em.
As much as I like the no.1,im guessing it’s quite heavy in .44magnum?
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Post by bula on Jan 7, 2023 10:55:06 GMT -5
Yeah , I forget the single shots too. Just googled and was surprised the Henry, blued, 44spec/mag goes 6.96 lbs ! About a pound heavier than I'd like. Only see a 22" barrel. An 18" barrel and 6 lb weight and I'd be tempted.
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Post by x101airborne on Jan 7, 2023 10:57:53 GMT -5
Just a couple things to keep in mind...
The 77/44 rifles can be great and some have their problems. Research what some people have to do to make them shoot. Bed the action, free float the barrel, etc.
The lever guns are wicked cool imo, but some can be defiant. Again, there are ways of working around it.
My suggestion for a new rifle that is comfortable to shoot and wouldn't take a year to find a load (especially with cast) would be a Thompson Center Encore. One frame can host many different options and they have some of the better stock ergonomics to help tame recoil. Then when you want something else, you buy a barrel and a grip and you can make it into a pistol or rifle of almost any caliber. Another bonus, if you buy a 22 or 24 inch barrel, in your mind you are thinking "This thing is going to be like carrying around a full length broom stick." but when you actually get it it turns out to be this little light weight almost cute thing you want to put into your pocket. With no receiver it turns out about 5 inches shorter than you think. A 18 inch barrel is even shorter visually, not just the loss of how ever many inches you actually ordered. Think "carbine" around 6 pounds scoped. VERY comfortable to carry around and plenty of power.
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Post by x101airborne on Jan 7, 2023 10:58:49 GMT -5
HAH! Guess it took me longer to type than I thought!
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Post by Encore64 on Jan 7, 2023 10:59:42 GMT -5
It's not bad at all. Has a 20" Medium Weight Barrel with a big hole down it.
I think 7-7.5 lbs or so. They're getting very hard to find unfortunately.
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Post by lar4570 on Jan 7, 2023 11:17:59 GMT -5
I had a Marlin 1894 44 Mag years ago. It was very accurate with the rcbs 215swc.
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Post by habanero on Jan 7, 2023 11:28:32 GMT -5
It's not bad at all. Has a 20" Medium Weight Barrel with a big hole down it. I think 7-7.5 lbs or so. They're getting very hard to find unfortunately. Hard to find turns to nigh on impossible in Europe. The one I saw on gunbroker now was 7 lb. 2 oz. Too heavy for that caliber,for me. Encore is an option.Had one in .223 and .375 h&h. Downside is finding barrels for it. Importing is an option,but too much paperwork from some countries. |
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Post by needsmostuff on Jan 7, 2023 12:15:28 GMT -5
Encore is an option. Downside is finding barrels for it. I have an Encore frame and buttstock tucked away just in case I run into any pistol caliber rifle barrel Has not happened. Every barrel I see is a big honkin hunting caliber. There are still guys making pricey custom barrels so that may be a plan someday. Or swap it for a Contender frame. Much better chance of finding pistol caliber stuff in the Contender world. Dang it, the curse of the "Rook rifle" thread still looms large in my heart. |
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