|
Post by dave19113 on Jan 8, 2023 12:57:09 GMT -5
Got an Sbh in .44 mag incoming and I think I need a companion rifle for it. So far it looks like a 77/44 or Chiappa 1892 Alaskan would fit the bill. Anyone have any experience with those,or want to suggest something else? I must admit I’m a bolt action guy,but I’ve owned a couple of Marlin lever actions. Light weight,quality and able to withstand heavy loads would be preferable. I have a Ruger 77/44 and have to say I love it. Its really light and compact. I did get it at a great price many years ago on a black friday sale as I remember.
Have a 2-7 Redfield on it.
I had a trigger job done on it because the trigger was terrible.
I didn't do much load development on it because it did so well with a jsp by (Nosler) or jhp (Hornady) 240 gr with a h110 load. It actually duplicates my muzzleloader velocities with the same bullets.
It is a snappy little rifle to shoot though
|
|
jeffh
.375 Atomic
Posts: 1,730
|
Post by jeffh on Jan 8, 2023 13:05:02 GMT -5
That speed strip idea is something I’ve never thought of.
I got the idea from Quick-Strip, who makes them for shotgun shells. I was shooting a 20 Gauge H&R at the time. The worked OK, but shells were too close together.
I use seven-round speed-strips for my five-shot 357s, with a gap (empty "slot") between two pairs of cartridges and a single, for clearance when loading. not as compact, but faster. It occurred to me then to remove every-other round from the strips I was using for my Contender Carbine in 357 and 30/30 (use 44/45 strips).
The seven-round strips are the handiest for either application, but are harder to find, and the danged things seem expensive for what they are. I've used the ones I have for several years, so maybe the price isn't so bad. My mind sees them as "clips," which my mind saw as expendable from my time in the Infantry, so I guess I have to sort of get over that.
Note that this works well for the break-actions, but I've never tried it with a falling-block or rolling block. Still, it's a handy way to keep cartridges handy and rattle-free in a pocket. You can also easily peel a round out of the strip with one hand, which is not quite as easy if you find a real clip that fits your rims. I used to use M16 clips to carry 32 Mag cartridges. I used the 6.5x55 clips for something, but don't remember what.
|
|
jeffh
.375 Atomic
Posts: 1,730
|
Post by jeffh on Jan 8, 2023 13:29:51 GMT -5
I have a Ruger 77/44 and have to say I love it. Its really light and compact....
Since I've shared my negative experience with the 77/XX, it's only fair to share the positive.
I agree completely on the compactness, light weight, the slenderness,... It's not just shorter, the whole gun is scaled down and is a wonder to handle, carry and hold. One very good-looking gun in my opinion.
The trigger wasn't good, but it's simple and easy to correct if you've ever done a trigger job. Uncomplicated and typically robust parts, per the Ruger way. That cut groups in half. By the time I gave up on mine, the only thing really wrong was that plastic stock, forearm of which just kept warping sideways as I relieved it. Each time I opened the barrel channel, it shot pretty much everything into an inch for five at fifty, even the 180 WFNs at close to 1800 fps, using 300MP.
I think the single most impressive thing about that gun is how neat it was to handle it. It was very handly, lightweight and compact without being difficult to shoot with, like as with some of the "yout-model" guns.
"Snappy," even with full-tilt 357s too. Not punishing by any means, but after 40 rounds of stuff 180s, you become conscious of the fact that you're shooting something with some punch. No bruising or actual "pain," but you know you're not shooting a 22.
|
|
|
Post by dave19113 on Jan 8, 2023 14:10:11 GMT -5
I have a Ruger 77/44 and have to say I love it. Its really light and compact....
Since I've shared my negative experience with the 77/XX, it's only fair to share the positive.
I agree completely on the compactness, light weight, the slenderness,... It's not just shorter, the whole gun is scaled down and is a wonder to handle, carry and hold. One very good-looking gun in my opinion.
The trigger wasn't good, but it's simple and easy to correct if you've ever done a trigger job. Uncomplicated and typically robust parts, per the Ruger way. That cut groups in half. By the time I gave up on mine, the only thing really wrong was that plastic stock, forearm of which just kept warping sideways as I relieved it. Each time I opened the barrel channel, it shot pretty much everything into an inch for five at fifty, even the 180 WFNs at close to 1800 fps, using 300MP.
I think the single most impressive thing about that gun is how neat it was to handle it. It was very handly, lightweight and compact without being difficult to shoot with, like as with some of the "yout-model" guns.
"Snappy," even with full-tilt 357s too. Not punishing by any means, but after 40 rounds of stuff 180s, you become conscious of the fact that you're shooting something with some punch. No bruising or actual "pain," but you know you're not shooting a 22.
I was actually very hesitant about buying it originally just because I had a negative experience with a 77/22 hornet, which I could not get to shoot well no matter what I did.
Mine does have the wood stock which I think helped with the problem the polymer stocks had.
I actually should shoot it more than I do. It has been quite a while
|
|
jeffh
.375 Atomic
Posts: 1,730
|
Post by jeffh on Jan 8, 2023 15:00:06 GMT -5
Since I've shared my negative experience with the 77/XX, it's only fair to share the positive.
I agree completely on the compactness, light weight, the slenderness,... It's not just shorter, the whole gun is scaled down and is a wonder to handle, carry and hold. One very good-looking gun in my opinion.
The trigger wasn't good, but it's simple and easy to correct if you've ever done a trigger job. Uncomplicated and typically robust parts, per the Ruger way. That cut groups in half. By the time I gave up on mine, the only thing really wrong was that plastic stock, forearm of which just kept warping sideways as I relieved it. Each time I opened the barrel channel, it shot pretty much everything into an inch for five at fifty, even the 180 WFNs at close to 1800 fps, using 300MP.
I think the single most impressive thing about that gun is how neat it was to handle it. It was very handly, lightweight and compact without being difficult to shoot with, like as with some of the "yout-model" guns.
"Snappy," even with full-tilt 357s too. Not punishing by any means, but after 40 rounds of stuff 180s, you become conscious of the fact that you're shooting something with some punch. No bruising or actual "pain," but you know you're not shooting a 22.
I was actually very hesitant about buying it originally just because I had a negative experience with a 77/22 hornet, which I could not get to shoot well no matter what I did.
Mine does have the wood stock which I think helped with the problem the polymer stocks had.
I actually should shoot it more than I do. It has been quite a whileBINGO! I was uncertain too, after a disappointing 77/22 Mag.
I am fairly certain that if mine had the wooden stock, I'd still own it. I had paid more for that rifle than I'd ever paid for a rifle in my life, having bought most of my rifles for just under $300 to about $400, NEW. The Rip Van Winkle syndrome bit me hard when I woke up to what prices had come to be, and my mindset was that if Ruger would swap the plastic for wood, I'd go for it, but I surely wasn't paying what I had just paid for just a barreled action, and then more for a wooden stock. That was when I decided to go with the Contender.
As far as shooting it more than you do, since I started this "quest," I have shot a pistol-caliber-carbine far more than anything else and have sold off a bunch of rifles. This is obviously not going to work for everyone, but the 357 carbine does 99% of what I need to do. I kept a 30/30, 223 ad 222, but everything more powerful than those is gone now.
And, back to the levers,... neither the Ruger bolt-action, nor my H&Rs or Contenders are anywhere near as viable an arm for personal protection, so there's that to weave into the warp too, depending on one's needs. I really feel like I should have a 92 again, mostly for that purpose. My 16" Rossi 92 was fast to get on target and fast to deliver a follow-up, if needed. I caught five raccoons destroying my property and terrorizing my pets and chickens one night and only two got away. Three shots in three seconds, and it's not like I'm all that good.
|
|
tj3006
.375 Atomic
Posts: 2,058
|
Post by tj3006 on Jan 8, 2023 15:49:14 GMT -5
I looked at the Ruger web sight, Retail for the 77/357/44 is 1200,00ish. No thanks, I would wait for the Rulin model 94, before I spend that much!...tj
|
|
|
Post by dave19113 on Jan 8, 2023 16:00:52 GMT -5
I looked at the Ruger web sight, Retail for the 77/357/44 is 1200,00ish. No thanks, I would wait for the Rulin model 94, before I spend that much!...tj wow!!!!
Ouch
I think I paid 400 ish for it.
|
|
|
Post by silcott on Jan 8, 2023 16:21:13 GMT -5
I paid $600 for my 77/357 with a Leupold scope unfired.
Justin
|
|
|
Post by x101airborne on Jan 8, 2023 17:05:04 GMT -5
After looking online, best I can tell, mine was way before the "Deerfield" designation. Could still be wrong though. ***** Trey.... you have Bill Ruger’s original Deerstalker gas operated .44 Mag carbine. Receiver styled like the 10/22 .22 LR. Enclosed receiver easy to scope mount, but most I’ve encountered hunting had irons. Bill told me the Deerstalker cost more to produce than he anticipated, and he intended it as a blue collar, grab-and-go deer carbine. I think he killed a wart hog and some other critters with it in Africa, and took it hunting in Blue Mountain Foresst (a.k.a. Corbin Park) in New Hampshire. His later .44 Mag carbine is the Model 99/44 Deerfield. I’ve heard it called the “Deerslayer.” Doubtful, that the Old Man would cotton to a naming one of his guns for killing & slaughter. “Deerfield,” nevertheless carries its own bloodstain... as in the Deerfield Massacre of 1704, when Indians and French attacked the Massachusetts settlement of that name. This is history that would not escape Bill Ruger. All that aside, lessons of the Ruger Mini-14 .223 Remington were applied to the Deerfield .44 Mag, notably the simple John Garand-inspired bolt and operating rod. David Bradshaw "Deerstalker"! That is it! I gotta fish that thing out and put some rounds down the tube. I was at the ranch where I couldn't get to the weapon.
|
|
DutchV
.30 Stingray
Posts: 166
|
Post by DutchV on Jan 10, 2023 18:13:18 GMT -5
The CVA Scout is available in .44 mag, blue or stainless, and there's also some takedown models. Comes with a nice cushy recoil pad, too, making it very pleasant to shoot.
The Rossi 92 in .44 Mag needs a leather recoil pad or a thick jacket. Recoil is a bit stout with the light weight and steel buttplate.
|
|
|
Post by dave19113 on Jan 10, 2023 18:47:44 GMT -5
This post made me want to dig out the 77/44
Here she is:
|
|
|
Post by tonyrumore on Jan 30, 2023 18:17:40 GMT -5
I've only got one 44 Mag rifle. It's quite ugly, but surprisingly smooth and tight for a Universal. Tony
|
|
|
Post by squawberryman on Jan 31, 2023 9:46:01 GMT -5
Tony who makes that?
|
|
Odin
.375 Atomic
Posts: 1,034
|
Post by Odin on Jan 31, 2023 10:13:52 GMT -5
|
|
Odin
.375 Atomic
Posts: 1,034
|
Post by Odin on Jan 31, 2023 10:27:02 GMT -5
|
|