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Post by wvhunter460 on Jan 22, 2022 23:43:46 GMT -5
It is headed back to MR. Hopefully they get it all squared away. Hopefully they can get it squared away for you... I got a BFR 460 first time I took it to the range with 335 grain cast it drove tacks this whole thread has me wondering how it made it to you like that. I checked my BFR when it first arrived and yes it had been test fired.Wonder if somehow it missed that step . I know that's probably not the case but. The bewildering continues
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Post by bigbore5 on Jan 23, 2022 0:40:31 GMT -5
And I agree on the brand reputation, bit it did in fact break at about 150 rounds. Maybe something else wrong. Still waiting to hear from MR. Did you hear back yet? Hopefully they get you back right quickly. My BFRs are tack drivers, but I also have never owned a production one. All mine are from the Custom Shop.
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Post by frankb on Feb 6, 2022 9:13:20 GMT -5
I finally called them. Gun shipped 1/4. I was told "the gunsmith has your gun". I asked for details. He had not shot it yet. It's too cold... Yup. I guess they are not test firing right now. Why anyone puts a gun manufacturing facility in upper Minnesota WITHOUT an indoor lane to test for accuracy is beyond me...
So yeah, about a month now, and it's sitting there gathering dust...
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 6, 2022 9:17:57 GMT -5
They have a firing room inside but it's really short. Maybe 10yds. So he probably intends on shooting the longer range to really find the problem.
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Post by magman on Feb 7, 2022 12:02:16 GMT -5
When I sent my FA in they couldn't shoot it because it was too cold out.
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Post by frankb on Feb 9, 2022 21:31:29 GMT -5
So, I finally heard back. According to MR, my BFR is shooting 2 to 2.5 inch groups at 25 yards, depending on what ammo they use.
So, obviously, the gun is not at fault. I just have to find a way to shoot it better.
My hits are all over the target. I'm not consistently pulling or pushing in any certain direction. I'm going to have to spend some time figuring out what I'm doing to shoot such poor groups.
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Post by rufus on Feb 9, 2022 22:02:47 GMT -5
Let me ask you something. Can these guns be dry fired? If so would some intentional DF practice maybe reveal what the issue is ?
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Post by x101airborne on Feb 9, 2022 22:12:22 GMT -5
So, I finally heard back. According to MR, my BFR is shooting 2 to 2.5 inch groups at 25 yards, depending on what ammo they use. So, obviously, the gun is not at fault. I just have to find a way to shoot it better. My hits are all over the target. I'm not consistently pulling or pushing in any certain direction. I'm going to have to spend some time figuring out what I'm doing to shoot such poor groups. My apologies, but 2 to 2.5 inch groups at 25 yards out of a BFR with them shooting it and their ammo is not what I would expect. I agree, shooter error has more to do with handgun accuracy than most anything, but 2 inches at 25 yards?? Something else is in error here in my opinion; on top of shooter ability. Two inches at 50 yards out of their test lab, I could see as standard tolerances; and that is more than most could use.
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Post by Odin on Feb 9, 2022 23:37:13 GMT -5
Let me ask you something. Can these guns be dry fired? If so would some intentional DF practice maybe reveal what the issue is ? They are an oversized New Model Ruger in design. Dry fire to your heart's content.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 10, 2022 1:00:15 GMT -5
So, I finally heard back. According to MR, my BFR is shooting 2 to 2.5 inch groups at 25 yards, depending on what ammo they use. So, obviously, the gun is not at fault. I just have to find a way to shoot it better. My hits are all over the target. I'm not consistently pulling or pushing in any certain direction. I'm going to have to spend some time figuring out what I'm doing to shoot such poor groups. To be honest, that's not very good for a bfr. All of them I have benched have been half that sized groups. There is a bit of adjustment getting used to the bfr ergonomics and shear size, but you said you were comfortable with magnum recoil. Shoot a pm to Whitworth and ask his input. Nobody knows the bfr better than Max in my opinion. My 500L is from the custom shop and puts a cylinder full into a big hole at that range with several loads from 355-485grs. My production 475 groups less than 1" with a 415gr swc. The 45-70 does 1 3/4", but I think it'll do better.
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Post by Big Bore on Feb 10, 2022 5:10:41 GMT -5
So, I finally heard back. According to MR, my BFR is shooting 2 to 2.5 inch groups at 25 yards, depending on what ammo they use. So, obviously, the gun is not at fault. I just have to find a way to shoot it better. My hits are all over the target. I'm not consistently pulling or pushing in any certain direction. I'm going to have to spend some time figuring out what I'm doing to shoot such poor groups. No way I would accept that as ok. MR shouldn’t either. Especially with a long barrel.
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Post by reflex264 on Feb 10, 2022 8:29:35 GMT -5
Two points. 1. I would expect that gun to shoot a ragged hole off the bench at 25 yards. That is realistic. 2. The fact that you are shooting all over the place and they got it to shoot 2" does reveal some shooter era.
That said in the right hands that gun might still shoot a ragged hole. If you know anyone near you that regularly shoots big bore handguns it would be worth shooting with them. Get them to watch you and see if they pic up on some bad habit that you may be missing. This isn't challenging your man card. This is about getting better at something you love to do. Everyone doesn't start off shooting big bore revolvers well. Sometimes it takes some work. Good luck with your BFR.
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Post by frankb on Feb 10, 2022 9:34:06 GMT -5
At any rate, it meets their expectations, and it is coming back.
Likely hitting the auction block. Whether it shoots badly, or I shoot it badly, I do not think I will keep it.
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Post by cmillard on Feb 10, 2022 10:51:47 GMT -5
At any rate, it meets their expectations, and it is coming back. Likely hitting the auction block. Whether it shoots badly, or I shoot it badly, I do not think I will keep it. If it were me, I wouldn't give up. I have had numerous firearms that were problematic....a few of those were mechanical issues that I corrected. Some were just tweeking loads a bit. One was for sure me.....another was beyond my mechanical abilities.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 10, 2022 11:00:13 GMT -5
I've still seen zero evidence as to the gun having a problem period.
I'm not sure how MRI tested the gun. If it were in a fixed rest and the best the gun would do is 2" then I may have questions.
If someone at MRI just shot the gun, then 2" may be the limit of the shooter(s).
I've bought quite a few "problematic" guns in my time that were good to go. Most had no problem at all.
As others have posted, there is a difference between validated problems and opinions as to how things should work.
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