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Post by pacecars on Feb 20, 2022 15:42:01 GMT -5
I could see that on a Single Six in .327 Federal being about perfect. Was exactly my thoughts Ronnie. Ordering a new Lipseys just for an aluminum version.  Are you just trying to cost me money? |
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Post by z1r on Feb 20, 2022 16:22:45 GMT -5
^^^^^OMG, I want!
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Post by buddha on Feb 23, 2022 2:48:24 GMT -5
Looks great...
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Post by Lee Martin on Mar 1, 2022 19:27:07 GMT -5
One of the newer RDW designs. This one is called the Martin XRH and is fit to a .414 Martin Razorback.   A couple of things to call out on the Martin XRH: • Inner profile is from the XR3-RED +300 • Back edge is from the Dealer • The trigger guard is enlarged a bit • Transition from the top of the backstrap to the frame humps is radiused -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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pleadthe2nd
.327 Meteor
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Post by pleadthe2nd on Mar 1, 2022 19:36:26 GMT -5
I just ordered that grip frame in brass, can't wait to try it out, looks like a perfect style to me.
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Post by Lee Martin on Mar 1, 2022 19:38:00 GMT -5
I just ordered that grip frame in brass, can't wait to try it out, looks like a perfect style to me. I think you'll love it. Hope others give it a try too. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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Post by bigbore5 on Mar 1, 2022 21:23:43 GMT -5
I like the look
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Post by singleaction on Mar 6, 2022 20:36:11 GMT -5
I am no longer seeing the old model bisley hammers and triggers being offered on the website. Are they no longer available?
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Post by Lee Martin on Mar 15, 2022 8:09:01 GMT -5
I fit up another Martin XRH:  The gun is my dad's .40-44 Magnum. He still needs to blue the cylinder and blacken the front sight. Ronnie supplied the walnut, which is gorgeous. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" |
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Post by crash87 on Mar 19, 2022 10:39:23 GMT -5
I've followed this thread and just went through the 66 pages again looking for some specific comparisons. Could have missed it but not going to go back again, so my query is this.
Looking at RW gripframes.com I don't find my answers on the difference's between the one of the 3 I'm interested in.
Bisley +4 Degree / Bisley Bison Hunter / Bradshaw Bisley.
A little background, The Ruger Bisley gripframe does fit my hand about as perfectly as it can, with the only troublesome spot is my middle finger getting battered on the trigger guard. When grasping the stock Bisley gripframe my hand fills the grip with my little finger, still on about 2/3rds of the way, of which I never really saw as a problem.
Here's the interesting part, Holding my old model converted to 38-40 with Ronnie's standard Bisley old model grip frame There is clearance of finger to guard, and no knuckle pounding, albeit it is a mild recoiling cartridge. Now, With my stock original Bisley Vaquero 45 Colt my middle finger actually touches the trigger guard.
With my desired load utilizing a 280 LFN, recoil gets me and I basically want to eliminate the finger slapping of the trigger guard.
With the 3 I mention above, I believe one of them is what I want, but which?
Thanks Ronnie, for keeping me up nights with all these options and decisions to make, also,
Thanks for a great product,
Crash87
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Post by RDW on Mar 19, 2022 11:33:11 GMT -5
I've followed this thread and just went through the 66 pages again looking for some specific comparisons. Could have missed it but not going to go back again, so my query is this. Looking at RW gripframes.com I don't find my answers on the difference's between the one of the 3 I'm interested in. Bisley +4 Degree / Bisley Bison Hunter / Bradshaw Bisley. A little background, The Ruger Bisley gripframe does fit my hand about as perfectly as it can, with the only troublesome spot is my middle finger getting battered on the trigger guard. When grasping the stock Bisley gripframe my hand fills the grip with my little finger, still on about 2/3rds of the way, of which I never really saw as a problem. Here's the interesting part, Holding my old model converted to 38-40 with Ronnie's standard Bisley old model grip frame There is clearance of finger to guard, and no knuckle pounding, albeit it is a mild recoiling cartridge. Now, With my stock original Bisley Vaquero 45 Colt my middle finger actually touches the trigger guard. With my desired load utilizing a 280 LFN, recoil gets me and I basically want to eliminate the finger slapping of the trigger guard. With the 3 I mention above, I believe one of them is what I want, but which? Thanks Ronnie, for keeping me up nights with all these options and decisions to make, also, Thanks for a great product, Crash87 Ok Crash here is a Standard Bisley in Black with a Bradshaw in Red overlay! Trigger guard place ment is the same however the whole of the handle part of the frame has been extended backwards 3/16ths of an inch making for more clearance to the Knuckle. Notice the black standard bisley has more meat behind it so that you can take it back a bit without compromising the grip panel platen.  Next is the Standard Bisley with the 4 degree in red behind it showing you the angle change. It repositions your hand and grip to give more wrist swing travel and a firmer pinky grip. we have noticed a significant amount of control and grip force gain with the 4 degree series. The closer to your forearm you can get your pinky finger the stronger it becomes. By angling your hand further forward it seems as if we are putting more forearm muscle into play on those lower fingers. If you try it for yourself you can tell a difference. More grip force with out strain, the better recoil control and shooting consistency. Also the way you are holding the four degree series, under recoil and pushback the trigger guard tends to roll over the knuckle rather than straight back into it. Also you will notice added clearance between the trigger guard and the Knuckle.  Next is the Bison Hunter in Red behind a standard bisley. The Bison Hunter is a 4 degree series frame that brings the lower floor plate of the grip downward to lengthen the backstrap and mimic the bottom of the bisley. It also has a larger trigger guard for gloved fingers. Great for cold weather shootin.  Hope that helps Crash R |
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Post by crash87 on Mar 19, 2022 12:15:31 GMT -5
It surly does help!! Immensely! My thought was always on the 4 degree for me. But then I read about more finger clearance, and you get that with the Bradshaw. While re-reading the 66 pages I started seriously looking at the Bison hunter also. So you can see the premise of my questions.
The Bradshaw gives the most clearance, but also brings the rear back also. My thinking is that would not work for my hand size. Looking at the 4 degree and the bison, I see about the same distance if not the same but that subtle difference is all that would be needed, for my hand geometry anyway.
Now to seal the deal between the two, 4 degree and Bison hunter, is the fact that it, Bison Hunter, has a larger trigger guard, and I am one of those cold weather shooting folks.
Again YES this Helps.
Thanks again Ronnie, and as a side note I'm about to get my dealer gripframe back, but now attached to a Flat top 44 mag. Pics will follow.
Crash87
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Post by bradshaw on Mar 19, 2022 13:44:44 GMT -5
crash87.... shooting cold weather generally reduces GRIP TRACTION, the lower the humidity and deeper the freeze, the less purchase we have on a revolver grip. Having shot some of the coldest weather in the Northeast this winter, the Bradshaw Bisley has not once tagged my middle finger. Most of my shooting is with gloves, as fingers freeze fast once you dip sub-ZERO and it is a challenge to restore warm. Can’t clamp your hands in your armpits and shoot at the same time. Shooting, also, an aluminum Bison Fingergroove with .44 mags, sometimes feel a nudge of the trigger guard.
Absent throughout, the unpleasant SMACK of the factory Bisley. The reward----anticipation of recoil doesn’t enter the mind. To act on your description, perhaps the Bisley 4-degree (Standard Bisley +4-degree)----with slightly enlarged trigger guard. It is your hand, not mine, you need to protect. If you shoot a HEEL INDEX grip----heel of palm indexes edge of gun butt----may get your hand a hair lower. (Choking up on a single action grip is fast and the natural inclination of a beginner, but it is not the grip for handgun silhouette of hunting with powerful loads.)
Note: platens of RWGF are thick enough to reduce front strap for additional clearance. Strongly suggest you shoot the grip before reducing front strap.
Length-of-pull of the Bradshaw Bisley prevents for this shooter a tendency to lay glove over spur of cocked, factory hammer, a benefit separate from hand protection. Suggest you send Ronnie a tracing of your hand.
David Bradshaw
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Post by steve on Mar 20, 2022 11:17:46 GMT -5
I can't wait to see what my hammer is gonna look like!
I ordered a Bisley with a Super Blackhawk spur
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Post by potatojudge on Mar 20, 2022 23:05:45 GMT -5
I was able to make it down to Houston to spend a morning with Ronnie and his boys. I had a great time looking over the creations posted here and then some. His shop is a playground of gun stuff, and the months and years of work are evident. I should've taken more pics, but I thought the machine he made to shape and polish the grip frames is especially genius. It's very hard to get grip frames right sanding them on vertical sanders, so he made his horizontal, and spring loaded to allow for slack both to create contours and to allow quick change of abrasives. I also got to meet Roy Fishpaw and handled every grip frame I saw laying around, which was a ton. I'm not sure if what I saw were hammers or hammer shaped objects, but they looked great and come in some very cool designs. I've decided I need a 32 with a brass Lightening frame and brass Fermin sight. I got a glimpse of a bit of genius Fermin and he hatched that really should become a Ruger necessity. One thing that really caught my eye was a gun he built with an ovate barrel band.  I'm going to have to make another trip down to see the rest, and hopefully to meet up with Fermin who was unavailable this go around. |
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