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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 10, 2019 21:28:33 GMT -5
Not sure what sub-forum this topic belongs in but Lounge sounded pretty good.
Im planning a trip out west later this year and I plan on taking a few handguns to do some shooting with some friends. I plan on flying. Ive never flown with my firearms. Ive read some TSA regs and have had some help with some friends on what to do, how to do....
TSA has their regs along with each airline company has their regs. I have checked both and looks like Im good to go other than a buying a ticket.
Id like to hear what other information (tips) the forum members have to offer.
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Post by princeout on Apr 10, 2019 22:03:07 GMT -5
Be sure your locking case has sufficient locks. I read the regs, thought I had everything covered trying to take my son his rifle this past year. Turns out I needed 3 locks to completely secure the case and only had one. Nothing open at 6 am at the airport, neither the airline nor TSA had extra locks. Had to leave the rifle locked in my truck. Learned my lesson.
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Post by Aggie01 on Apr 10, 2019 22:40:55 GMT -5
Disclaimer - I have not done this yet, I just know it's my plan. The less shit I have to take through an airport the better. www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/0501-firearms-top-10-qaspdf/download6. May I lawfully ship a firearm to myself in a different State? Any person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in the care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner “in the care of” the out-of-State resident. Upon reaching its destination, persons other than the owner must not open the package or take possession of the firearm. |
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Post by contender on Apr 10, 2019 22:44:34 GMT -5
If you fly with the guns,, OVER insure them. A serious competition shooter I know likes to insure his guns for $10,000. It makes them nervous about such a loss & as such,, he often gets to sign to receive them. If they lose one,, you have a seriously valid claim.
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Post by bushog on Apr 10, 2019 23:16:54 GMT -5
Disclaimer - I have not done this yet, I just know it's my plan. The less shit I have to take through an airport the better. www.atf.gov/resource-center/docs/0501-firearms-top-10-qaspdf/download6. May I lawfully ship a firearm to myself in a different State? Any person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in the care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner “in the care of” the out-of-State resident. Upon reaching its destination, persons other than the owner must not open the package or take possession of the firearm. This works well. Done it several times going to AK. I've flown with guns a bunch too. I use a honkin' Pelican case with two big Master locks that you can set the combos on. Pack clothes on the bottom and foam on the top so you can carry useful stuff in the case as well as your gun and the foam so you can open it without your spidies fallin' out. Be prepared to open the case when you get to the airport so they can see the guns are unloaded. Although, once in Miami I asked them if they wanted me to open the case and they said "Hell no!" Was funny. NO AMMO IN THE CASE WITH THE GUN! The ammo can go in your suitcase as long it ts in a case made for ammo. I use old commercial boxes for my handloads. |
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Post by bradshaw on Apr 11, 2019 10:20:32 GMT -5
Hard case must be secured with TSA-compliant lock. Regular padlocks are verboten. The locks look mighty skimpy. Two types of hasp are available: 1) cable shackle, 2) solid shackle. I much prefer the cable lock.
TSA lock
What is a TSA lock? A TSA-compliant lock has a combination, which the owner sets. The lock also opens to keys issued to TSA personnel. If you lock a case----any case, not just a gun case----with a lock TSA cannot open, they will cut it. TSA are available at hardware stores and other shops.
Buit-in lock
TSA can refuse a case with built-in lock(s) which do not open to a TSA key. Even if you long ago lost the key to your lock(s), or otherwise cannot use the built-in lock(s), presence of a lock TSA cannot open is ground for refusal. I removed flush-mount cylinder locks to avoid refusal. You can take over a built-in lock and one inspector accepts the case; an inspector with an attitude problem might refuse it.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Apr 11, 2019 10:44:18 GMT -5
On the TSA compliant lock.
I’ve never shipped guns with locks that TSA could unlock themselves, I’ve had friends do it, and their cases were opened,......why??? My guess, is because they could. I’ve never gotten my locks cut and on overseas flights I’ve been told to take my ammo out of my normal luggage and lock it in my gun case with the gun!?!?.........so obviously there is no hard and fast rule. Whoever you are dealing with at the time is KING, simply comply with their request and get a signature or name if it’s something out of the ordinary, so when and if it gets questioned further down the line you’ve got someone to blame.
On an overseas flight, if you are changing planes. A 3 hour layover would be a good thing, as no one seems to be in a hurry to get you checked through. So be prepared for a wait,......smile a lot and don’t be pressed for time.
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Post by 450ak on Apr 11, 2019 11:14:09 GMT -5
Take cell phone pics of your guns. Take pics of the useless blaze orange card that the guns are unloaded. I tape that to my pistol case. Ive never used tsa locks and never had an issue. Nowadays the firearm bag/box is taken to baggage claim and you must show id and they escort you outside. Above all use a good quality case and smile. Most airline people are helpful and nice. The worst tsa and guns is in anchorage alaska, go figure.
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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 11, 2019 12:25:38 GMT -5
Hard case must be secured with TSA-compliant lock. Regular padlocks are verboten. The locks look mighty skimpy. Two types of hasp are available: 1) cable shackle, 2) solid shackle. I much prefer the cable lock. TSA lockWhat is a TSA lock? A TSA-compliant lock has a combination, which the owner sets. The lock also opens to keys issued to TSA personnel. If you lock a case----any case, not just a gun case----with a lock TSA cannot open, they will cut it. TSA are available at hardware stores and other shops. Buit-in lockTSA can refuse a case with built-in lock(s) which do not open to a TSA key. Even if you long ago lost the key to your lock(s), or otherwise cannot use the built-in lock(s), presence of a lock TSA cannot open is ground for refusal. I removed flush-mount cylinder locks to avoid refusal. You can take over a built-in lock and one inspector accepts the case; an inspector with an attitude problem might refuse it. David Bradshaw The rules I saw said the locks have to be so ONLY the owner can open the gun case. Luggage locks are different, they have to be TSA compliant so the TSA master key can open or else they get cut |
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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 11, 2019 12:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by eskimo36 on Apr 11, 2019 12:46:46 GMT -5
I travel with a pelican type case and after the contents are examined, I padlock it, I duct tape the latches down, and put it inside a a tough old duffel bag with a luggage tag. Has worked every time and it is not conspicuous.
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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 11, 2019 12:55:41 GMT -5
I like that idea Eskimo!
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Post by whitworth on Apr 11, 2019 12:59:56 GMT -5
It's not that complicated to fly with firearms. I do it frequently and you just need to have a TSA compliant case (with locks of course), need to keep your ammo separate in your other checked luggage, make sure your guns are unloaded, and then allow for enough time to go through the process of TSA X-raying and examining your firearms before your case goes into the belly of the airplane.
Announce to the person checking your luggage that you are traveling with firearms and they will make you sign a form that goes into the case. Someone will come and get the case and you will accompany the case to the TSA are where the X-ray takes place. Once that is done, keep your fingers crossed that the case arrives with you.
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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 11, 2019 20:44:33 GMT -5
Max, what case/cases do you fly with and what locks do you use?
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Post by whitworth on Apr 12, 2019 12:28:35 GMT -5
Max, what case/cases do you fly with and what locks do you use? I have Negrini cases that come equipped with combination locks. This is the case I used for my trip to South Africa last year. It's two sided separated with a divider, so I put the revolvers on one side and the optics on the other.   |
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