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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 12, 2019 12:35:14 GMT -5
Thank you, I cant decide between a large deep handgun case or a case more like for a O/U shotgun.
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Post by Robster on Apr 16, 2019 12:04:52 GMT -5
My son just yesterday flew with two rifles. Heading to Florida
They were in a Pelican case.
Regulations are that every hole for a lock must be filled with a lock.
I bought him 4 padlocks keyed alike from Home Depot. There were 4 holes for locks.
The check in counter is where you declare firearms immediately upon being called to the counter. They had him fill out a form, open the case to show they were unloaded then re lock the case.
Then it was brought to a TSA agent who inspected and had him re lock with his padlocks.
Here is the twist.
He is flying to Florida.....from Syracuse, NEW YORK!
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He is 18 and was flying alone.
He did not have one single hiccup to the whole procedure. Went very smooth and no stress or drama.
So the case must be locked with YOUR padlocks.
I have flown with my handguns before. Small pistol case locked with my locks put in a suitcase(can't be a duffle bag). Suitcase must be locked with TSA approved locks.
Same procedure as he followed above.
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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 16, 2019 12:21:49 GMT -5
My gun case is the only checked baggage I plan to have.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 16, 2019 13:40:03 GMT -5
DO NOT put TSA locks on your gun cases, not sure where DB got that idea, unless something recently changed that I am not aware of. They do not want anyone to access that case but its owner. NO TSA locks on your gun cases. I have traveled with guns to Africa 8 times, so I have some idea whats involved. Ammo now must usually be placed in a separate lockable container and shipped separately as well so be sure and inquire about that. Its not always enforced.
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Post by gregs on Apr 17, 2019 9:31:11 GMT -5
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Post by bradshaw on Apr 17, 2019 12:41:07 GMT -5
"DO NOT put TSA locks on your gun cases, not sure where DB got that idea,”
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“DB got that idea" from TSA in airport. I have experienced the arbitrary aspect of screening, wherein non-TSA locks would have been cut. Else, guncase would not be put on plane. The TSA rule contradicted Federal regulations, which stipulate ONLY the person checking guncase shall have access----whether by key or combination. Perhaps TSA has been forced to defer to Federal law.
David Bradshaw
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 17, 2019 16:52:34 GMT -5
Perhaps you ran afoul of an idiot, that does happen especially in govt agencies. But the fact remains, no TSA locks on gun cases. How can TSA rules be contradicted by Federal rules? They are one and the same, TSA is a federal agency.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 17, 2019 18:04:51 GMT -5
There may have been a recent change at TSA. I see this wording now and I don't remember seeing it before.
"personnel request the key to open the firearm container to ensure compliance with TSA regulations. You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, (including TSA recognized locks")
This may be why there is still some confusion. If some zealot at TSA wants to make a stink, he may think he can point to that. But the wording seems pretty clear to me, that only the owner should have keys to the locks on a firearm case, but TSA can get into TSA locks without much trouble. But they can get into anything if they want to bad enough.
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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 18, 2019 6:08:23 GMT -5
Update, my flight is booked. Next step is to order my case.
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Post by taffin on Apr 18, 2019 15:39:35 GMT -5
Not sure what sub-forum this topic belongs in but Lounge sounded pretty good. Im planning a trip out west later this year and I plan on taking a few handguns to do some shooting with some friends. I plan on flying. Ive never flown with my firearms. Ive read some TSA regs and have had some help with some friends on what to do, how to do.... TSA has their regs along with each airline company has their regs. I have checked both and looks like Im good to go other than a buying a ticket. Id like to hear what other information (tips) the forum members have to offer. I WON'T FLY ANYMORE BUT WHEN I DID I OFTEN SHIPPED MY GUNS TO ME AT MY DESTINATION. |
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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 19, 2019 5:48:41 GMT -5
Not sure what sub-forum this topic belongs in but Lounge sounded pretty good. Im planning a trip out west later this year and I plan on taking a few handguns to do some shooting with some friends. I plan on flying. Ive never flown with my firearms. Ive read some TSA regs and have had some help with some friends on what to do, how to do.... TSA has their regs along with each airline company has their regs. I have checked both and looks like Im good to go other than a buying a ticket. Id like to hear what other information (tips) the forum members have to offer. I WON'T FLY ANYMORE BUT WHEN I DID I OFTEN SHIPPED MY GUNS TO ME AT MY DESTINATION. Does this involve an FFL on either end? |
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Post by Alaskan454 on Apr 19, 2019 6:46:46 GMT -5
I fly with handguns a few times per year and have had zero trouble in the last few years since I started doing so. In fact, some airlines have changed their policies to make it a benefit if you fly with guns.
Around Christmas time I skipped a 50+ person line for check in because I had "special luggage" and went straight to the VIP check in desk. My wife and I also got on a flight that "did not have seats" when flying with a firearm. Our original flight was canceled and I'm guessing they wanted to keep the firearm and passenger together. Our regular luggage did not make the flight, firearm did.
When I fly I use a Pelican style hardcase which has two lock holes. Make sure you get short shackle locks that do not allow someone to open it enough to get a hand or tool inside to remove anything important. The first set of locks I tried allowed an entire 6" revolver to be removed when locked. The shackles were way too long.
If it's a small case like one for handguns I then place it inside a hard sided piece of luggage, just keeps a lower profile. The full size rifle style cases are obviously on their own.
When you get to the checkin desk assume the airline employee has no idea what to do. You'll want to start by saying "I have an unloaded firearm to declare" and you want to ensure they repeat something similar back to you. I once told the person at checkin three times I had an unloaded firearm to declare, and she still forgot. Flipped out when I reminded her again she had not given me the unloaded firearm slip to sign and place in luggage.
Lastly, you will get a wide range of people who check you in. Some have wanted to see my firearms up close, most just look for a lock on the case and don't want it opened at all. Either way, do not pick up your firearm in the check in line. If they want to handle it, request a TSA agent to go in a back room. I've never wound up in that situation but know people who have. The last thing you want to do is be seen handling a gun in a crowded airport. Rural airports are a whole different story though, they are usually much more familiar with firearms.
Lastly, you have to use your own locks. NO TSA LOCKS on firearms cases.
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Post by nolongcolt on Apr 19, 2019 11:23:53 GMT -5
I fly with handguns a few times per year and have had zero trouble in the last few years since I started doing so. In fact, some airlines have changed their policies to make it a benefit if you fly with guns. Around Christmas time I skipped a 50+ person line for check in because I had "special luggage" and went straight to the VIP check in desk. My wife and I also got on a flight that "did not have seats" when flying with a firearm. Our original flight was canceled and I'm guessing they wanted to keep the firearm and passenger together. Our regular luggage did not make the flight, firearm did. When I fly I use a Pelican style hardcase which has two lock holes. Make sure you get short shackle locks that do not allow someone to open it enough to get a hand or tool inside to remove anything important. The first set of locks I tried allowed an entire 6" revolver to be removed when locked. The shackles were way too long. If it's a small case like one for handguns I then place it inside a hard sided piece of luggage, just keeps a lower profile. The full size rifle style cases are obviously on their own. When you get to the checkin desk assume the airline employee has no idea what to do. You'll want to start by saying "I have an unloaded firearm to declare" and you want to ensure they repeat something similar back to you. I once told the person at checkin three times I had an unloaded firearm to declare, and she still forgot. Flipped out when I reminded her again she had not given me the unloaded firearm slip to sign and place in luggage. Lastly, you will get a wide range of people who check you in. Some have wanted to see my firearms up close, most just look for a lock on the case and don't want it opened at all. Either way, do not pick up your firearm in the check in line. If they want to handle it, request a TSA agent to go in a back room. I've never wound up in that situation but know people who have. The last thing you want to do is be seen handling a gun in a crowded airport. Rural airports are a whole different story though, they are usually much more familiar with firearms. Lastly, you have to use your own locks. NO TSA LOCKS on firearms cases. "You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA recognized locks".,, this from TSA. I was unaware of this till just a couple days ago. |
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Post by Alaskan454 on Apr 19, 2019 11:48:07 GMT -5
I fly with handguns a few times per year and have had zero trouble in the last few years since I started doing so. In fact, some airlines have changed their policies to make it a benefit if you fly with guns. Around Christmas time I skipped a 50+ person line for check in because I had "special luggage" and went straight to the VIP check in desk. My wife and I also got on a flight that "did not have seats" when flying with a firearm. Our original flight was canceled and I'm guessing they wanted to keep the firearm and passenger together. Our regular luggage did not make the flight, firearm did. When I fly I use a Pelican style hardcase which has two lock holes. Make sure you get short shackle locks that do not allow someone to open it enough to get a hand or tool inside to remove anything important. The first set of locks I tried allowed an entire 6" revolver to be removed when locked. The shackles were way too long. If it's a small case like one for handguns I then place it inside a hard sided piece of luggage, just keeps a lower profile. The full size rifle style cases are obviously on their own. When you get to the checkin desk assume the airline employee has no idea what to do. You'll want to start by saying "I have an unloaded firearm to declare" and you want to ensure they repeat something similar back to you. I once told the person at checkin three times I had an unloaded firearm to declare, and she still forgot. Flipped out when I reminded her again she had not given me the unloaded firearm slip to sign and place in luggage. Lastly, you will get a wide range of people who check you in. Some have wanted to see my firearms up close, most just look for a lock on the case and don't want it opened at all. Either way, do not pick up your firearm in the check in line. If they want to handle it, request a TSA agent to go in a back room. I've never wound up in that situation but know people who have. The last thing you want to do is be seen handling a gun in a crowded airport. Rural airports are a whole different story though, they are usually much more familiar with firearms. Lastly, you have to use your own locks. NO TSA LOCKS on firearms cases. "You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA recognized locks".,, this from TSA. I was unaware of this till just a couple days ago. I've definitely flown on airlines which, at least at the time, specified no TSA locks. They can add requirements on top of TSA minimum. |
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Post by leftysixgun on Apr 19, 2019 12:20:00 GMT -5
Hahaha, I noticed this morning the same thing about TSA locks. I was going to post it when I got home.
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