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Post by ezekiel38 on Oct 31, 2017 10:46:05 GMT -5
Going to watch this project with a certain amount of excitement. 41 Magnum is a great caliber!
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Post by cmillard on Nov 1, 2017 5:56:39 GMT -5
Oh boy, time to resurrect the .41 mag thread!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 3, 2017 21:24:31 GMT -5
One of the most important touches on a custom sixgun, at least to me, is the black powder chamfer on the cylinder. While many sixgun smiths do this quite well, I really like the way Alan Harton nails it every time. For me, there is no way to match the precision of a digital readout on a milling machine by hand. So, I had a few in line to be done with Harton and I added the cylinder to Doc's Dawg to the job. Here are a couple of pics and Doc's Dawg is on the right. The other 2 cylinders on the left are out of my 45 Flattop 45 Colt/ACP Custom Bisley sixgun. You can see the consistency of the radius when the 3 cylinders are laid side by side. More, Alan tells me it only takes about 20 minutes to do each one. That is moving right along. Here is a picture of the way Alan sets up the cylinder in his milling machine vise. Note the clever use of the pin gauges to prevent movement/shifting of the cylinder and that the pin gauges also keep the cylinder perfectly top dead center. Harton uses a custom ground cutter that combined with the digital readout on the mill makes the outcome a perfect black powder chamfer every time. To me this is spectacular stuff. Never mind the man has lived a very interesting life. Never mind he is one of the finest sixgun smiths ever. Never mind he is the perfect Southern Gentleman. Look at how simple and elegant his solution to this problem is. Do you realize the radius on the cutter is cut in reverse? That he has found a use for his pin gauges other than to measure a hole? As time goes on, I hope to examine and unfold more and more of his fixtures and special tools. While I have seen quite a few of them, up to now, to tell you the truth, I really been so blown away by some of them that I never thought to take a picture. I will work to remedy that....
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Post by Rimfire69 on Nov 4, 2017 7:31:34 GMT -5
Real nice up close pics of the machine process.
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Post by txn63 on Nov 4, 2017 7:54:22 GMT -5
Are the hammer and trigger from Clements or Power Custom?
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 4, 2017 9:10:12 GMT -5
Clements built the hammer and trigger. Probably more expensive but from what I’ve seen they are far better finished.
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Post by txn63 on Nov 4, 2017 9:39:20 GMT -5
I've been watching your other projects closely and I really enjoy your documentation of the detail work. That kind of hand finishing, especially when you do it yourself, really sets these customs apart from the norm. Only problem is that now you've got me digging through my parts drawers and stack of project guns to see what kind of trouble I can get into!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 4, 2017 19:49:28 GMT -5
I've been watching your other projects closely and I really enjoy your documentation of the detail work. That kind of hand finishing, especially when you do it yourself, really sets these customs apart from the norm. Only problem is that now you've got me digging through my parts drawers and stack of project guns to see what kind of trouble I can get into! Let me know if I can help. Nothing I enjoy more than pushing a willing victim over the edge!
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txn63
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Post by txn63 on Nov 6, 2017 12:22:19 GMT -5
With me a push is probably overkill, more like a subtle nudge will get the job done nicely.
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Post by Markbo on Nov 7, 2017 21:49:07 GMT -5
Are you going to do the welding yourself Fermin?
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 7, 2017 21:58:34 GMT -5
Are you going to do the welding yourself Fermin? Actually Mark, I am not a welder enough to do this. Normally Ray would do my main frame welding, but it is hard to ask him for shop time when the oil field guys are paying several times per hour what our best sixgunsmiths charge. I have witnessed this welding a number of times and can tell everyone what makes it so tedious. First, it has to be done a bit at a time. If you get too much heat on the frame you might warp it or otherwise burn off it's grandiose juju. So, it's weld a little, cool awhile, weld a little more, cool some more and so on. I may have to send this one out.
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Post by Markbo on Nov 8, 2017 20:52:23 GMT -5
I wondered. I work with welders and have learned that welding is a true craft. It takes a lot of skill. I kno Alan Hartonbmade it sound like "no big deal" but Inpersonally would never try it on a gun. Good call I think on sending it out.
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Post by mhblaw on Nov 15, 2017 12:39:31 GMT -5
Nice pic of the Bowen conversion of an OMBH to Bisley frame. I had Hamilton make me two just like it, one in 41 Special and the other in 38-40 WCF. Nice guns and good shooters.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 15, 2017 16:22:51 GMT -5
Nice pic of the Bowen conversion of an OMBH to Bisley frame. I had Hamilton make me two just like it, one in 41 Special and the other in 38-40 WCF. Nice guns and good shooters. I consider it an excellent template. Tough to match, something else entirely to exceed as a benchmark.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Nov 23, 2017 0:45:57 GMT -5
I wondered. I work with welders and have learned that welding is a true craft. It takes a lot of skill. I kno Alan Hartonbmade it sound like "no big deal" but Inpersonally would never try it on a gun. Good call I think on sending it out. You know what Mark, I have been thinking really hard about this. I recently dug out all the projects that I have going and realized so many needed welding to get them where I wanted them to be that I might as well push into that arena as well. So, I am doing some consulting and homework on it.
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