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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 22, 2016 14:35:34 GMT -5
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Post by zeus on Aug 22, 2016 15:08:07 GMT -5
On the Bushnell, There are a good many guys using those and like them. I've heard...NF was making them for them but can't remember if there was any truth to that or not. Memory sucks, what can I say? Dur has one. Hopefully he can chime in. If you decide on that, let me know. I'll check local store here and they typically have them really low priced for some of them as the headquarters are a few miles down the road. They have several outlet stores in the area. Stock is varied depending on when you call. But I'd be happy to pick it up and mail it to you if you went that route. The new Vortex HD series is really nice. I'm impressed with them so far. Glass quality is exceptional and doesn't really give up anything to the S&B which is my favorite and the price is much more palatable!! Buddy has one of the eliminators. Works pretty well from what I've seen but it's a big bulky crazy looking thing. I also don't know how far out it will work. I doubt it would work for extreme distances due to laser beam divergence etc. Would be something to check into before heading that route. I prefer to dial my own  |
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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 22, 2016 15:21:31 GMT -5
I know Burris markets them for hunting, but I don't think I'd want something that big & heavy on anything but a target shooter  ... I'm kinda wrestling with max power for both the 338 & 6.5 X 284... the posi lock on the 338 is a 14X & when it's clear, seems like just about the right magnification... I go to 12 or 14 X on my "sporting" rifles... any time I've gone higher power than that, I've not been happy with the quality of the sight picture... but admittedly I've not used a 20 X variable that cost over $600.00 so I'm sure that's most of the problem... I do have a Unertl 15X & 20X... 15 is on a custom 22-250, & the 20X on a custom Remington Rolling block in a long range 32-40 set up... in essence, all of these are "longer range rifles... all are shooting to 300 yards right now... with so much to play with, make time & money for the 6.5 X 284 glass tougher to justify... at least right now  |
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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 22, 2016 15:26:35 GMT -5
this is that rolling block when I was building it... full contour 8mm barrel, the burl wood stock & forearm are extremely heavy... the 3 piece steel butt plate not finished here, balances the gun nicely... they still need to be painted ( painting each plate in automotive metallic one red, one white, one blue ) over all build was to be a 60's looking bench gun  |
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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 22, 2016 15:29:13 GMT -5
this is my long range CAS steel buffalo gun... in 40-65... I'll admit... the older I get, the more I want to shoot guns like this, but the more I "need" the magnification   |
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Post by zeus on Aug 22, 2016 16:11:39 GMT -5
I love that rolling block!
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Post by Markbo on Aug 22, 2016 16:25:56 GMT -5
Are you left haded MWM?
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Post by zeus on Aug 22, 2016 16:29:42 GMT -5
I hope not. All his rifles look to have right side bolts?
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Post by schunter on Aug 22, 2016 17:19:19 GMT -5
MWM,
The Bushnell scopes are a great value - i recently sold my Bushnell DMR scope after running it for 2 years. Mine was the 3.5-21 with 5 mil/rev and no zero-stop, but since I was running it on a gasser and using holdovers with the G2 reticle, the lack of ZS and increased mil/rev was a moot point for me. I only sold it to try to have more consistency in my reticles (EBR-2C and H-59).
Supposedly there is a DMR2 scope in the works scheduled for release later this year.
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Post by BigBore44 on Aug 22, 2016 17:45:10 GMT -5
I know Burris markets them for hunting, but I don't think I'd want something that big & heavy on anything but a target shooter ... I'm kinda wrestling with max power for both the 338 & 6.5 X 284... the posi lock on the 338 is a 14X & when it's clear, seems like just about the right magnification... I go to 12 or 14 X on my "sporting" rifles... any time I've gone higher power than that, I've not been happy with the quality of the sight picture... but admittedly I've not used a 20 X variable that cost over $600.00 so I'm sure that's most of the problem... I do have a Unertl 15X & 20X... 15 is on a custom 22-250, & the 20X on a custom Remington Rolling block in a long range 32-40 set up... in essence, all of these are "longer range rifles... all are shooting to 300 yards right now... with so much to play with, make time & money for the 6.5 X 284 glass tougher to justify... at least right now MagWM
So now that you showed the pic I (we) need to know specifics,,, what is what?.... If'n you don't mind.  Top to Bottom L and, Top to Bottom R 
Thanky Kindly... BigBore44
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Post by ryan on Aug 22, 2016 18:36:16 GMT -5
The new Vortex HD series is really nice. I'm impressed with them so far. Glass quality is exceptional and doesn't really give up anything to the S&B which is my favorite and the price is much more palatable!! I'm with Zeus...the Vortex Razor HDs are excellent. On top of that, the company and it's reps are great to work with, too. My department bought 4 of the 3-18x (EBR-2C MRAD reticle) this spring and we've been very pleased, both dialing and holding. I liked them so much, just last week I traded into a new 4.5-27x56 (same reticle) for my personal rifle. I've always believed the S&Bs set the standard, which is probably true, but the Vortex Razor HDs give up nothing to the S&B. And at about 1/2 the cost. |
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Post by schunter on Aug 22, 2016 20:23:19 GMT -5
Ryan - like you, I've been very impressed by the clarity, durability, etc of the Gen 2 Razor line. So much so, it's now on the majority of my LR rigs.
Really looking forward to the new AMG offering for a lighter weight option, and the word on the street is that the glass is better than the Razor
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Post by zeus on Aug 22, 2016 20:26:07 GMT -5
SCHunter turned me onto them and I've put them side by side with S&B and ATACR versions and they are all so close, it's hard for normal eyes to distinguish differences. That's a cool problem to have when the glass is becoming more affordable and indistinguishable from the high dollar German glass.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Aug 23, 2016 5:30:03 GMT -5
MARK... nope I'm right handed 44... I've posted that pic before & put up the calibers... I'll try again... left side is all short actions... 17 Fireball, 22 K Hornet ( 1 in 9" twist ), 223, 243, 6.8 SPC, 7 X 57, .308 right side is all long & magnum actions... 25-06, .270, 7mm Rem Mag, 30-06, 338 Win Mag, 35 Whelen, 375 H&H hard part would be remembering the glass left top to bottom... Burris, Vortex, Burris, Nikon, Nikon, Burris, Burris ( all are 12 - 14 X ) Right top to bottom... Redfield, Luepold, Weaver, Luepold, Burris, Lueplod, Burris ( all but the 35 Whelen & 375 H&H are 12-14 X ) interesting features... 17 Fireball is a custom Remington 700 & has the C-4 wind reticle Burris scope... the 22 hornet stabilizes up to 68 grain bullets... the 243 is an older Ruger 77 that originally had the OD green scales, now wears spalted maple, it was my 1st rifle... the 6.8 SPC is a total custom Remington 700 with a Prostaff 5... the 7 X 57 is a custom Mauser, with one of the 3 Preditor Quest Burris scopes ( love those reticles )... the .308 is a custom Ruger Gunsite Scout rifle the .270 is a Jack O Conner tribute edition Winchester with a Luepold Gold Ring... the 30-06 is a 100th anniversary of the 30-06 Remington 700... the 338 & 375 H&H are both Browning Stainless Stalkers with BOSS's & posi lock Burris's |
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Post by zeus on Aug 24, 2016 11:28:30 GMT -5
Here is the 6 Creed with the Vortex Razor Gen 2 on it. I have to go check it tomorrow for my son. Season for youth is a little over a week out. This is a really cool "little" rifle. Built by Short Action Custom (SAC) on a Surgeon action with Krieger barrel and Manners stock. I never have been a big 6mm fan and honestly figured I'd spin a barrel in a different caliber when it was time to change but after using it at the range and a couple of hunts, I will replace with the same when it's time. I've come to really like the little round and its capabilities. This is the munchkins rifle but he seems to have come pretty fond of the little M40 style gun so we will see what he eventually does. Being that we will be hunting out of a blind this coming week, I figure we will use this one with the can and not have to deal with the noise.  |
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... so in reality... I could use 2 "expensive" scopes 
