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Post by 500fksjr on Oct 4, 2013 18:55:54 GMT -5
4"Ruger Vaquero bisley rd butt in .500L by Dustin Linebaugh loaded with CP 525@ 900 fps for the anything,anywhere...As Robert Ruark suggested bring enough gun. To me I never give a second thought to whether I Have to little or to much...
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Post by Thumper on Oct 5, 2013 6:25:30 GMT -5
1. What about a 4" barrel. Does the 5/8" of a make that much difference in carry. I do like the looks though. Personal preference, in my opinion. My new project has a 4 5/8" so I can use standard holsters.2. Medium Frame? I have never held a med frame gun and I know I will have to before I make a real decision. But are they that much lighter and smaller? I have no opinion on this one.3. Fixed sight? Get one load and regulate or adjustable. I'm partial to adjustable sights because I use different loads for different things.4. How about round butt frames? With the rough casting of Rugers and extremely poor fit of their grips, might as well round the butt a bit while profiling the grips. So, what? ...Call me a girl.5. What about the bisley grip? Have heard some say it was too big for a PPP. My last custom project was a 5.5" Bisley convertible. It carries well, and handles .45 335gr. +P loads well, but you definitely know it's on your hip, which is why I picked up my latest base gun for a project.I won't insinuate that my perfect packing pistol would fit the bill for anyone else's. I may not even get it right this time around on the build, but then I have an excuse to build another. I went with a 4 5/8" Super Blackhawk (#0813) .44 Magnum to replace a 3.75" SBH .44 I picked up. My hunting Bisley is the .45 Colt/ACP, because I liked the ability to use .45 ACP for pigs and plinking, but I'm really a .44 fan. I bought a used XR3-RED aluminum frame, and am going to make some canvas micarta grips for the new project .44, probably. I'll scallop the recoil shield and frame, because I think it looks "finished" that way, not because it saves anything significant on weight. Swap the SBH hammer for a Bisley hammer, some Bowen Field Sights with a white ramp front for low light, a lanyard so I don't misplace it, a crescent ejector rod, and heavy duty base pin. My goal is 34-38ozs; we'll see how realistic that is. This is a start for planning, I've got a few more months before I get home and can start building.
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Post by bigbisley on Oct 5, 2013 6:59:51 GMT -5
thought should throw out a few of my favorite plus a few have made up for customers Hey shorty500 what front sight are you using on the vaquero in the second picture? Do you have any more pictures of it?
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Post by bradshaw on Oct 5, 2013 7:32:26 GMT -5
snyd.... 3rd picture: what is the optic on your Bisley? And what manner of Bisley? And the modified M7 Tanker holster----retention appears awfully dependent on the strap. Evident you exert the mileage to oblige us with dope on your pistols and leather, what is comfortable and what ain't. Keep truckin'... Respectfully, David Bradshaw
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Post by shorty500 on Oct 5, 2013 9:30:44 GMT -5
thought should throw out a few of my favorite plus a few have made up for customers Hey shorty500 what front sight are you using on the vaquero in the second picture? Do you have any more pictures of it? thats a made to order slimline design that i made to correct windage and elevation for customers Montado
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Post by AxeHandle on Oct 5, 2013 9:50:54 GMT -5
Two versions of PPP for me. #1 In my mind: Gallagher 5.25 Octagon 500L#2 On my belt: Kimber 45 ACP pre series II CDP Compact
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Post by 45bbh on Oct 5, 2013 9:57:59 GMT -5
I'd have to go with a 5'5" Ruger Bisley .45 Colt. It's a factory gun (albeit not a catalog item) that cost me $500, came with a .45 ACP cylinder, it's accurate and I can load it any way I want, from mild to wild and the Bisley grip handles recoil very well, even 330gr at 1300+ fps isn't bothersome at all. Heck it's even got a non fluted cylinder, which I like and the ACP cylinder will shoot .45 Super as well. I want something bigger to play with, like a .500 JRH, but for around here (KY), I don't need anything more than the .45 Colt.
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Post by dlhredfoxx on Oct 5, 2013 16:34:31 GMT -5
Here is my PPP... Bisley Vaqero, 3.5" bbl, .45 Colt, CCH by Turnbull, Alaskan Dall Slabs, high polish blue, heavy 5 shot cylinder... i'm done.
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Post by woody on Oct 5, 2013 19:38:40 GMT -5
It all depends what I'm doing and the time of year. In the fall grouse hunting and woods bumming it will probable be one of my single sixes with 22 mag cylinder or my .32 mag. Used for small game or varmints.
During bow season my single six .22 mag is always in my backpack.
During deer season if it is my primary gun. It will be my 5.5".44 Bisley tuned by John Gallagher. If it is my second gun. Probably my .357 mountain gun or any of my 4 5/8" Blackhawks in .357,.44 or .45 colt. This year my Turnbull finished .357 flat top will get a lot of time in the deer woods.
Off season woods bumming it could be any of the above or one of my 1911's,k-22 or a Glock.
I guess there is no such thing as a perfect packing gun. It is always the one I have on me at the time or the next project gun in the future. That is the never ending quest. I tell my wife that is how I end up with so many guns. I have done the same thing with turkey guns.
One gun that is always with me in the field and street is my S&W .357 model 60. Usually loaded with a hot .38 lswc load or Speer short barreled mags. To be honest that gun I have shot more game with over the years. It is always with me. It had taken coons,opossum,skunks,fox,coyote,deer,squirrels,rabbits,woodchucks and probably some critters I forgot about.
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Post by nc12215 on Oct 5, 2013 20:03:56 GMT -5
Two make the cut for my outdoor working gun.
1. A Ruger .45 Colt Vaquero 4 5/8. With the ugliest front sight you might ever see. It is the result of a young man with a sharp file and not much common sense. I had to build it up again to a usable height. Long story.
2. 4" Smith and Wesson 25-5 45 Colt. This gun has had extensive work done over the years. The best mod was having the cylinder modified to shoot .45 ACP w/ moon clips, .45 Colt w/ moon clips and .45 Colt w/o moon clips. My main working gun. It rides in a custom made crossdraw buffalo hide holster.
Everyday loads for both is a 270gr Leadhead @ 950 fps. Although lately I have been using a 300 gr Montana Bullet LBT 300 gr at the same speed.
Both carry legitimate scars from my trips afield.
Dave
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Post by Snyd on Oct 5, 2013 20:46:34 GMT -5
snyd.... 3rd picture: what is the optic on your Bisley? And what manner of Bisley? And the modified M7 Tanker holster----retention appears awfully dependent on the strap. Evident you exert the mileage to oblige us with dope on your pistols and leather, what is comfortable and what ain't. Keep truckin'... Respectfully, David Bradshaw Weaver 2x28. 45 Colt Bisley Hunter. The holster is custom made by Von Ringler... Ringler Custom Leather. It's his Wyoming Combination Holster. I sent him measurements and pics of the gun/scope combo and made the holster for it. I am very happy with it. I did a write up and posted a bunch of pics a few years ago at Handgun Hunter forum and posted it again here... singleactions.proboards.com/thread/8503I have since used it in the field quite a bit and have not found anything I don't like about it. It can be carried over the shoulder/bandoleer style, around the waist strongside or crossdraw. The retention strap works great. In fact I packed it on an 8 day, 40ish mile, walk in sheep hunt into the Brooks Range this year. I packed it as cross draw and was able to carry my backpack with out interfering with the backpack belt. It worked well even packing 100+ lb pack full of sheep and gear. My raincoat draped over it nicely during our 2 day slog out in the rain. I highly recommend this holster. Packing out loaded heavy in the rain. It's under there, you can see it poking out. Still within easy grasp in case of a griz encounter. Hunting... Going from waist to shoulder like in dropping pack for a stalk is quick and easy with the snaps on the big strap. No need to readjust a harness with sliders, etc.
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Post by maxcactus on Oct 5, 2013 21:40:59 GMT -5
I think the Perfect Packing Pistol is completely subjective -- what may be good for one, may not be good for another. For an out-of-the-box revolver, for me at least, the 5 1/2-inch Ruger Bisley in .45 Colt is about as close to perfection as you can get. Bisley means control when recoil gets stiff, the barrel length is just right, and what's not to like about the .45 Colt chambering? +1 to what Whitworth, 45BBBH and Thumper said. I have a pair of .45 Colt Bisleys, one of which is a convertible, and I can't imagine a more versatile revolver. I have a couple Flatttop 45 Convertibles as well, and they're nice, but the Bisley gripframe sure adds a lot of the user-friendliness of the bigger guns. I also like my S&W M625 in .45 Colt with the 4" bbl, but if I had to choose one, hands down it would be a stainless Bisley 5.5" convertible. Max.
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Post by maxcactus on Oct 5, 2013 21:49:35 GMT -5
Two versions of PPP for me. #1 In my mind: Gallagher 5.25 Octagon 500L]Good gracious, that's an obscenely beautiful revolver!!
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Post by Stump Buster on Oct 5, 2013 22:53:54 GMT -5
For Lightweight Wood's Bumming = Huntington Enhanced NMFT 45... ...but the other three (all 45Colt) would do in a pinch
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Post by Snyd on Oct 6, 2013 1:01:29 GMT -5
Every time I see that gun I get a chill up my spine... Two versions of PPP for me. #1 In my mind: Gallagher 5.25 Octagon 500L
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