COR
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Post by COR on Jul 22, 2012 18:54:11 GMT -5
quote author=craigc Is that really all you can come up with? "Get over it"
Who's holding a grudge? I never gave my opinion of Reeder or his guns in this discussion until YOU pushed me to it. Period. Yes, That is the best advice I can come up with... furthermore I apologize for pushing you so much and making you type up that "tell all" about Gary. It probably feels good to get it all out though and expose the truth. I believe Gary when he says he has seen cracking and I respect his opinion on the margin of safety. I wonder if it is possible that someone just pushed one of those rebult Vaquero's too far? It could be why Gary had concerns and decided not to go down that path. It's his livelihood so he probably errs on the side of caution.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 22, 2012 19:21:33 GMT -5
"a difference of opinion" Dang man! Where have you been? That is the simple fact of the matter.. Sure I've got Reeder guns and I'm having more built even as I type.. I got a few more Reeder guns planned too. Seems like I've a few others built by other gunsmiths. ;D I'll have more of those too... Yo TC... We are planning a Fayetteville shoot with the local forum members. Planning to shoot a few Reeder guns in fact... maybe a Clements, Linebaugh, Gallagher, Huntington, and Bowen too... You coming along?
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Post by tek4260 on Jul 22, 2012 21:24:45 GMT -5
Has anyone ever seen a blown or otherwise failed Reeder?
The only thing he said that had to be marked on the revolver was a series(backpacker ultimate backup, ect) and caliber, so the engraving isn't a requirement.
And the important part was it would be less than $1K shipping included to turn my 45 into a 475.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 22, 2012 21:55:44 GMT -5
We might all be surprised if we took an accross the board sample of 475/500 bore custom magnums and ran them through some state of the art nondestructive inspections. When we see one that has failed, like the Linebaugh recently posted, I'd bet that most failures are the cummulative effect of multiple heavy loads, not simply one massive overload.
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Post by tek4260 on Jul 22, 2012 22:12:19 GMT -5
We might all be surprised if we took an accross the board sample of 475/500 bore custom magnums and ran them through some state of the art nondestructive inspections. When we see one that has failed, like the Linebaugh recently posted, I'd bet that most failures are the cummulative effect of multiple heavy loads, not simply one massive overload. Seems life is harder on a factory 44 or 45 than a 5 shot custom. The 44's and 45's run at similar pressures with much less meat in the critical areas. I'd also be willing to bet most customs are destroyed by light loads than heavies. If I am remembering right, the Linebaugh was done in by a new scale and HS-6. With the standard H110 loads you simply can't get enough to blow them without compressing the piss out of it.
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dmize
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Post by dmize on Jul 22, 2012 22:17:28 GMT -5
Since my only experience with truly bigbores has been recent and only with 480's,475's and the 500 JRH can a person massivly overload one? without using a fast powder?
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aaron
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Post by aaron on Jul 24, 2012 16:48:02 GMT -5
dmize
With the 1.4 inch cases, or shorter, it would be difficult or impossible to over load with 296/H110 to the point of harming the revolver with a few rounds. It is definitely possible to overload the Maxs/longs/500 S&W with the slow powders though.
Aaron
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aaron
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Post by aaron on Jul 24, 2012 16:54:17 GMT -5
My comment for what it is worth. My one and only Reeder gun was a Ultimate back up in 500L, now sold. As customs go, it was what I could afford at the time, desperatly wanting a 500L. It served it's purpose for a long time. However, the fit, such as the grip frame to the frame was poor and the lock up no better than a factory Ruger Blackhawk. Now, I would rather save longer and tote the note for better built revolver. Again, for what it is worth.
Thanks
Aaron
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RpR
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Post by RpR on Jul 24, 2012 22:42:54 GMT -5
Bob Baker told me at a Linebaugh shoot way back in 02 that-- the gun has not been made that cannot be blown-up, including mine.
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Post by lloydsmale on Jul 25, 2012 4:33:18 GMT -5
All i can say is ive got two linebaugh built vaqueros in 500. One built by john one by dustin. Both have seen many many thousands of rounds and and neither have given me a lick of problems. If there is frame breaking problems im about certian i can tell you why. John lists max pressures for his guns. HIs data for the 500 shows it as a low pressure round. Now you cant say he downloads it because he fricking invented it and is smart enough to know the limits of it. Just about everyone with a 500 pushes pressure up past what he recomends. Me included. When you do it you do it at your own risk and at the risk of your gun. My buddy Al, who alot of you here know has a 500 vaquero too along with 6 or 7 other linebaugh built guns and has no doubt put more rounds downrange with the linebaughs in his life then any two of the rest of us and to be realistitic probably more then any 5 of us. If a serious problem with them was going to show im sure he would have seen it happen. If you know him you know back in the day he sure didnt load many light loads. As most of the shootist here will attest, most guys hid when he brought out his 500s because of the loads he used.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 25, 2012 4:47:15 GMT -5
I shot some of his stuff in a 4" Vaquero Bisley. Prolly coulda derailed a train with that load. I know it damn near derailed me! For those of you who do not know Al Anderson, I can tell you I know he has actually shot a 500 Linebaugh out and had to have one rebuilt!
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cubrock
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Post by cubrock on Jul 25, 2012 9:32:30 GMT -5
I shot some of his stuff in a 4" Vaquero Bisley. Prolly coulda derailed a train with that load. I know it damn near derailed me! For those of you who do not know Al Anderson, I can tell you I know he has actually shot a 500 Linebaugh out and had to have one rebuilt! He is probably one of the few men alive who can do that and live to tell the tale.
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