dmize
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Post by dmize on Feb 3, 2012 14:20:14 GMT -5
After much conversation with our buddy Axe at lunch today I took my BFR to FedEx to send back to MRI for a 500 JRH cylinder. First the nice lady asked how I wished to ship it. My best confused look resulted in her pointting to a map,since Minnesota is "green" it was a 2 day trip by ground,would be guaranteed there by 8am Tuesday. Well then she asks if it is a handgun,to which I replied yes,oh THEY...HAVE TO BE SHIPPED next day air,well ok it will get there faster.... She then charges me $85 shipping with a guaranteed arrival time of no later than 4 pm Monday!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My even more confused look only solicited a confused look and a "well thats just the way it works"..........
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Post by AxeHandle on Feb 3, 2012 14:32:22 GMT -5
Yikes! Forgot... I try to not ship on Thursday or Friday. Most likely it will be sitting somewhere for two days...
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Post by subsonic on Feb 3, 2012 14:39:08 GMT -5
IF you can get MR to bill you and generate a call tag, they can ship it ground..... because they have an FFL, and you don't.
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Post by JM on Feb 3, 2012 14:45:41 GMT -5
That's not a handgun. It's a precision drill.
Shipping has become the new form of Highway Robbery.
~JM~
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Post by mstepanovich on Feb 3, 2012 14:54:05 GMT -5
JM-I agree! When I ship/or receive handguns, UPS or FEDEX, the charge is ALWAYS next day air, even though the gun NEVER sees an airplane, as it's coming by truck ... in these cases a two or three hour drive by car. When I inquired about this, I was told that next day air is safer for the gun to be delivered, to avoid theft. I then asked if ground shipping was unsafe, or more risk of theft, but, of course they saw no humor in my questions. PURE BS and price gouging, and only do firearms shipping because they have to.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Feb 3, 2012 14:58:35 GMT -5
The worset thing is, that next day crap isnt even law. Its Fed Ex and UPS policy.....
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Post by bigbores on Feb 3, 2012 15:09:35 GMT -5
I got this off of Reeders site, I like shipping the guns this way.
" If you are shipping a handgun to me for work or a conversion, UPS and sometimes Fed Ex can be real anti gun and force you to ship the gun overnight, which, by the way IS NOT A LAW, just their silly rules. So, to bypass all this crap, take the 5 screws out of the gripframe, ease it off, being careful not to lose the 2 small springs inside the gripframe. Put these parts in a baggie along with the gripframe and loose grips. Take the cylinder out and the housing off and base pin out and put them in a baggie. You can then put the rest of the gun in another baggie and put all these little baggies in one large baggie. If you are familiar with the gun, feel free to take it the rest of the way apart, if not then that is far enough.
This way you can tell them, if they ask, that you are shipping gun parts to a repair station, which we are and if they look, they will see a lot of parts in baggies and shouldn't give you a hassle. When it gets to us, it won't matter if it is all in parts as that is the first thing we do anyway. And of course, when your firearm is returned, it will have been re-assembled, fully test fired and ready for the field."
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Post by robl on Feb 3, 2012 15:25:54 GMT -5
If the gun is not changing ownership you can legally send it by US Mail. No the post office won;ttell you this it is against their reg but not against the law.
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Post by Boge Quinn on Feb 3, 2012 15:35:18 GMT -5
I got this off of Reeders site, I like shipping the guns this way. " If you are shipping a handgun to me for work or a conversion, UPS and sometimes Fed Ex can be real anti gun and force you to ship the gun overnight, which, by the way IS NOT A LAW, just their silly rules. So, to bypass all this crap, take the 5 screws out of the gripframe, ease it off, being careful not to lose the 2 small springs inside the gripframe. Put these parts in a baggie along with the gripframe and loose grips. Take the cylinder out and the housing off and base pin out and put them in a baggie. You can then put the rest of the gun in another baggie and put all these little baggies in one large baggie. If you are familiar with the gun, feel free to take it the rest of the way apart, if not then that is far enough. This way you can tell them, if they ask, that you are shipping gun parts to a repair station, which we are and if they look, they will see a lot of parts in baggies and shouldn't give you a hassle. When it gets to us, it won't matter if it is all in parts as that is the first thing we do anyway. And of course, when your firearm is returned, it will have been re-assembled, fully test fired and ready for the field." If they ask, and they seldom do, and I'm in a mood to play their game - I tell 'em it's gun parts. I just don't tell 'em the parts are assembled!
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Post by hammerdown77 on Feb 3, 2012 15:52:38 GMT -5
I have also heard the line about overnight shipping reducing the chance of it being stolen. In fact, I had a Sheriff's investigator tell me he's recovered some guns that turned out to have been stolen out of a UPS/FedEx shipment, so there may be some merit to this policy, the theory being that the less amount of time it sits in warehouse somewhere, the less likelihood of it being stolen. I think about this when I have an FFL send something slow boat USPS because it's cheap...
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Post by robl on Feb 3, 2012 16:00:12 GMT -5
Hammer, USP and Fedex and postal service is riddled with thieves. Years ago the FBI caught a whole UPS semi truck load of stolen guns... I have nothing but admiration for most of the drivers. Its the distribution folks that force us to use the overnight BS. Because UPS and fed ex can't control thier internal theft.
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Post by AxeHandle on Feb 3, 2012 16:45:18 GMT -5
Yup, you can call them parts but you'd better insure for full replacement value.. Lessons learned first hand: Lee Jurras sent me a 41 mag Bisley hunter. Box arrived empty opened from the bottom. A USPS employee took it. Insurance paid for it. The Dawgs sent me a 500L that was found packageless at the USPS distribution center in Atlanta. USPS tried to get him to pay more for shipping it on to me. The Dawgs, being the diplomat he is, told them to ship it to where he originally paid for or keep it. It was insured appropriately. They shipped it.
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Post by jamesjames on Feb 3, 2012 16:45:37 GMT -5
I ordered 2 USFA Rodeo IIs from a dealer this year and they shipped UPS. Both guns were in their original boxes and then packed in a larger box for shipping. In transit, one gun was removed from the package. UPS and the FFL had to do a stolen firearms report. 2 weeks later, the gun was "recovered" and shipped to my FFL. When I picked it up, the story was that the outer box developed a "hole" and one gun fell out and fell behind the conveyor belt. I looked at the original Rodeo Box and it had no scratches or dented corners. I'm glad the gun was recovered, but the cover story seems a little fishy.
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Feb 3, 2012 17:56:34 GMT -5
Gentlemen, gentlemen ... Why do you insist on continuing to use UPS and Fed Ex ?? It amazes me. Your friendly local dealer can send a firearm back to the manufacturer or another FFL holder via the U.S. Postal Service - Priority Mail. The cost will be $15-20 depending upon the size of the handgun. Your dealer doesn't want to do it? Get another dealer. There are PLENTY who will be happy to do it for you. I haven't sent or received a handgun by UPS in more than a decade. Legal thieves.
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Post by nolongcolt on Feb 3, 2012 17:57:12 GMT -5
I dont believe its legal to ship a handgun (assembled) by USPS, though I know its done all the time by dealers. My dealer says its not legal, ATF website. I refuse to ship any gun by UPS or FedEx unless like someone mentioned a repair tag is sent out first from the FFL. Their charges are highway robbery. UPS is a little less ridiculous than FedEx but still too high.
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