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Post by reflex264 on Mar 13, 2024 8:51:31 GMT -5
I don't take anything personally. I would be honored for you to shoot this gun. I don't have time to run down there right now But I could ship it. It's a freak of nature. I am trying to decide whether to change the scope out to one of my Leupold 4X or 2.5X8 scopes. I bought several new Leupolds when I started hearing rumors about them discontinuing handgun scopes. It isn't the only gun I have with a 2X Leupold that shoots good but it is the most accurate. I have some lead free bullet tests to do with it. After that if you would like I can figure something out. I believe anyone that can shoot can keep 100 yard groups under 2" with it. From what ive learned of revolvers and shooting them so far, thats just phenomenal. Should i ever be blessed to own one like that, ill protect it and cherish it until the end! Its really amazing to me using manual machines in my own shop, that they were able AND DEDICATED enough to produce something with such obvious close tolerance prior to the CNC days. Whomever built it certainly took pride in their work. As I have said this one is a freak. I thought about using the frame to build something bigger but I can't make myself dstroy the best shooting factory barreled Ruger I have ever seen. The throats in this gun are perfect. The barrel appears to have been lapped but I don't have anyway to prove that. The only major fault is the cylinder gap is .006". My son has tried to talk me into tightening that up but I am scared to do anything to it for fear of messing up its accuracy. I am not a .357 fan but I can't make myself wreck this gun. I am planning on killing something with it this year. The funning thing is it was in rough shape when I got it. Of special note was the base pin. It had a dip worn in it so bad that it looked like it was bent. Seeing that I expected the cylinder to be worn just as badly but it didn't have a mark in it. True all the way through. I stuck a belt mountain pin in it was it was tight as is. The gun had been shot so much that the pins had major groves worn in them. The hammer looked like some one hit it on a grinder wheel.
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Post by hunter01 on Mar 13, 2024 10:01:03 GMT -5
I have that mold myself. I have yet to play with it though. Looks like i may be missing out. Good shooting!
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Post by hunter01 on Mar 13, 2024 10:07:34 GMT -5
From what ive learned of revolvers and shooting them so far, thats just phenomenal. Should i ever be blessed to own one like that, ill protect it and cherish it until the end! Its really amazing to me using manual machines in my own shop, that they were able AND DEDICATED enough to produce something with such obvious close tolerance prior to the CNC days. Whomever built it certainly took pride in their work. As I have said this one is a freak. I thought about using the frame to build something bigger but I can't make myself dstroy the best shooting factory barreled Ruger I have ever seen. The throats in this gun are perfect. The barrel appears to have been lapped but I don't have anyway to prove that. The only major fault is the cylinder gap is .006". My son has tried to talk me into tightening that up but I am scared to do anything to it for fear of messing up its accuracy. I am not a .357 fan but I can't make myself wreck this gun. I am planning on killing something with it this year. The funning thing is it was in rough shape when I got it. Of special note was the base pin. It had a dip worn in it so bad that it looked like it was bent. Seeing that I expected the cylinder to be worn just as badly but it didn't have a mark in it. True all the way through. I stuck a belt mountain pin in it was it was tight as is. The gun had been shot so much that the pins had major groves worn in them. The hammer looked like some one hit it on a grinder wheel. I have quite a few of the OM 357's i have acquired fir projects. Im not comfortable enough on the small frame pushing them HARD to hunt with. Im sure it would be just fine but.... I have a 44spl on one in the works and im kicking around the idea of a 45c now. Trying to convince myself that i dont need 1200-1700 fps with a heavy bullet to be effective, especially in a small package for hip carry. Im enjoying the BFR's but they dang sure arent packing guns unless you are packing a wheelbarrow.
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Post by reflex264 on Mar 14, 2024 8:29:38 GMT -5
As I have said this one is a freak. I thought about using the frame to build something bigger but I can't make myself dstroy the best shooting factory barreled Ruger I have ever seen. The throats in this gun are perfect. The barrel appears to have been lapped but I don't have anyway to prove that. The only major fault is the cylinder gap is .006". My son has tried to talk me into tightening that up but I am scared to do anything to it for fear of messing up its accuracy. I am not a .357 fan but I can't make myself wreck this gun. I am planning on killing something with it this year. The funning thing is it was in rough shape when I got it. Of special note was the base pin. It had a dip worn in it so bad that it looked like it was bent. Seeing that I expected the cylinder to be worn just as badly but it didn't have a mark in it. True all the way through. I stuck a belt mountain pin in it was it was tight as is. The gun had been shot so much that the pins had major groves worn in them. The hammer looked like some one hit it on a grinder wheel. I have quite a few of the OM 357's i have acquired fir projects. Im not comfortable enough on the small frame pushing them HARD to hunt with. Im sure it would be just fine but.... I have a 44spl on one in the works and im kicking around the idea of a 45c now. Trying to convince myself that i dont need 1200-1700 fps with a heavy bullet to be effective, especially in a small package for hip carry. Im enjoying the BFR's but they dang sure arent packing guns unless you are packing a wheelbarrow. I have found that a good midframe 44 Special answers a lot of questions. The Ruger 44 special flat tops easily handle the Keith load and pack really well. I have never found a critter around here that wont succomb to it. Of course I also subscribe to the idea that you never give yourself a reason not to buy another gun.
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Post by hunter01 on Mar 14, 2024 8:46:29 GMT -5
I have quite a few of the OM 357's i have acquired fir projects. Im not comfortable enough on the small frame pushing them HARD to hunt with. Im sure it would be just fine but.... I have a 44spl on one in the works and im kicking around the idea of a 45c now. Trying to convince myself that i dont need 1200-1700 fps with a heavy bullet to be effective, especially in a small package for hip carry. Im enjoying the BFR's but they dang sure arent packing guns unless you are packing a wheelbarrow. I have found that a good midframe 44 Special answers a lot of questions. The Ruger 44 special flat tops easily handle the Keith load and pack really well. I have never found a critter around here that wont succomb to it. Of course I also subscribe to the idea that you never give yourself a reason not to buy another gun. I have quite a few of the OM 357's i have acquired fir projects. Im not comfortable enough on the small frame pushing them HARD to hunt with. Im sure it would be just fine but.... I have a 44spl on one in the works and im kicking around the idea of a 45c now. Trying to convince myself that i dont need 1200-1700 fps with a heavy bullet to be effective, especially in a small package for hip carry. Im enjoying the BFR's but they dang sure arent packing guns unless you are packing a wheelbarrow. I have found that a good midframe 44 Special answers a lot of questions. The Ruger 44 special flat tops easily handle the Keith load and pack really well. I have never found a critter around here that wont succomb to it. Of course I also subscribe to the idea that you never give yourself a reason not to buy another gun. Ive had two of the new flat top bisley 44spls. Now my friend Dave has one and will have the other just as soon as i see him again. In my opinion, they are the best NM ruger has made FOR ME. My load is a 250 at 1100-1200 fps. Dave has done quite a bit of killing with his at a more sedate 1000fps and his is incredibly accurate. If i weren't intending to build customs on the old models, those NM flat tops would be my choice in a ruger. I still have a flat top plow handle 45c/45acp convertible that ive never fired. I'll probably put it up for sale since the market is strong and use it to help finance some OM work.
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Post by marlin35 on Mar 23, 2024 11:18:53 GMT -5
The OP wanted real life groups, so here are a couple. First group point of aim the circle behind the revolver @ 25 yards. Second group point of aim front stroller wheel @ 25 yards. First time shooting again in quite some time as it has been either cold or rainy here.
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Post by Cholla on Mar 23, 2024 11:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by Fowler on Mar 23, 2024 12:39:46 GMT -5
What load was that, looked like fine shooting at a fair bit of distance. I do wish I had a place that I could leave steel targets set up at so I could shoot a few rounds when the mood strikes. Shooting a couple cylinders here and there will make for a far better shooter than shooting a bunch of ammo when you occasionally get the chance.
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Post by Cholla on Mar 23, 2024 13:19:36 GMT -5
What load was that, looked like fine shooting at a fair bit of distance. I do wish I had a place that I could leave steel targets set up at so I could shoot a few rounds when the mood strikes. Shooting a couple cylinders here and there will make for a far better shooter than shooting a bunch of ammo when you occasionally get the chance. Thank you, sir. That load is 7.5 gr. of AL 20/28 which I have found behaves almost identically to Unique in the .44 Special ( Here's some trivial testing I did many years ago). The bullet was a 258 gr. cast SWC from an RCBS 44-250 KT mold.
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Post by ridenshoot on Mar 23, 2024 13:35:20 GMT -5
Cholla, that was fun! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by bigbore5 on Mar 23, 2024 13:47:17 GMT -5
By what I am reading here, 20/28 seems more like Universal than Unique. Being as Universal is mia now, I think I might pick up some and try it.
Maybe it'll be a good thing. Like I currently prefer Shooters World Heavy Pistol over the newer #9 powder. Heavy Pistol is actually the old #9 formula anyway.
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Post by Cholla on Mar 23, 2024 15:09:39 GMT -5
Continuing on, I shot the Flat Top .44 Special out further than I ever had; 300 yds. The target pictured here is a metal replica of an MR-1C 600 yd. Slow Fire target I made several years ago. The white speck just below the horizon is the 36" target and pictured is the former patio chair from which I sawed the legs. It was one of those extremely rare Texas days when the wind was just barely blowing. It took me 4 ea. cylinders of five shots to finally figure out the elevation and windage, then I was out of shells so I had to run to the shop and throw together a few more. Oh yeah, the load was 15.0 gr. of 2400 and a 225 gr. cast SWC from a Lyman 429215 mold. Velocity is a smidge over 1150 fps. I was in a big rush but I got 4 of the last 5 on the target and now I know how to hold for the elevation. Do two shot groups count?
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Post by hunter01 on Mar 23, 2024 15:35:12 GMT -5
What load was that, looked like fine shooting at a fair bit of distance. I do wish I had a place that I could leave steel targets set up at so I could shoot a few rounds when the mood strikes. Shooting a couple cylinders here and there will make for a far better shooter than shooting a bunch of ammo when you occasionally get the chance. Thank you, sir. That load is 7.5 gr. of AL 20/28 which I have found behaves almost identically to Unique in the .44 Special ( Here's some trivial testing I did many years ago). The bullet was a 258 gr. cast SWC from an RCBS 44-250 KT mold. That was some fine shooting. Couple feet of windage needed?
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Post by ridenshoot on Mar 23, 2024 15:52:05 GMT -5
Two shot groups count at that range.
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Post by Cholla on Mar 23, 2024 18:25:38 GMT -5
That was some fine shooting. Couple feet of windage needed? Not that much, about a foot, I'd say. I was shooting into the wind but across a draw, which can make the wind shifty.
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