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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 27, 2024 3:24:37 GMT -5
Why would you want a Uberti when you have a "properly" Alan Harton worked over COLT....? Because I don't have the extra money for it.
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Post by kooz on Feb 27, 2024 9:45:41 GMT -5
I have been through this a few times, getting out of spec Colts "worked over" so that they function and shoot as they should . At the end of the day it was a big waste of money . You spend a ton of money on a Colt , then a ton of money on the work and a year or more to get it back , and then if your lucky it shoots as good as your Uberti . But now you are hesitant to carry and use the $3500 gun for ranch work...so you eventually decide to sell it , only to find out that collectors will turn their nose up at it because it has been altered . I got rid of all mine , I guess some folks look at the gunsmith perfected Colt as a thing of beauty and something to be proud of , but in my case I couldn't get past thinking of it as a badge of stupidity on my part.......a $3500 gun that doesn't do a damn thing that a $500 gun wont do . Sure , I would love to be able to buy an American made Colt that was ready for use out of the box and hate that the Italian guns are better, but that is where we are at .
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 27, 2024 9:48:23 GMT -5
I have been through this a few times, getting out of spec Colts "worked over" so that they function and shoot as they should . At the end of the day it was a big waste of money . You spend a ton of money on a Colt , then a ton of money on the work and a year or more to get it back , and then if your lucky it shoots as good as your Uberti . But now you are hesitant to carry and use the $3500 gun for ranch work...so you eventually decide to sell it , only to find out that collectors will turn their nose up at it because it has been altered . I got rid of all mine , I guess some folks look at the gunsmith perfected Colt as a thing of beauty and something to be proud of , but in my case I couldn't get past thinking of it as a badge of stupidity on my part.......a $3500 gun that doesn't do a damn thing that a $500 gun wont do . Sure , I would love to be able to buy an American made Colt that was ready for use out of the box and hate that the Italian guns are better, but that is where we are at. Well Said...
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Post by needsmostuff on Feb 27, 2024 12:11:24 GMT -5
I have been through this a few times, getting out of spec Colts "worked over" so that they function and shoot as they should . At the end of the day it was a big waste of money . You spend a ton of money on a Colt , then a ton of money on the work and a year or more to get it back , and then if your lucky it shoots as good as your Uberti . But now you are hesitant to carry and use the $3500 gun for ranch work...so you eventually decide to sell it , only to find out that collectors will turn their nose up at it because it has been altered . I got rid of all mine , I guess some folks look at the gunsmith perfected Colt as a thing of beauty and something to be proud of , but in my case I couldn't get past thinking of it as a badge of stupidity on my part.......a $3500 gun that doesn't do a damn thing that a $500 gun wont do . Sure , I would love to be able to buy an American made Colt that was ready for use out of the box and hate that the Italian guns are better, but that is where we are at . Said with a big brass pair, BRAVO!!!!
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Post by longoval on Feb 27, 2024 12:17:55 GMT -5
I would trade my Cimarron Model P, blackpowder frame for a Harton Colt in a heartbeat. But it is foolish to ignore the value of the Uberti.
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Post by Cholla on Feb 27, 2024 20:56:15 GMT -5
I have been through this a few times, getting out of spec Colts "worked over" so that they function and shoot as they should . At the end of the day it was a big waste of money . You spend a ton of money on a Colt , then a ton of money on the work and a year or more to get it back , and then if your lucky it shoots as good as your Uberti . But now you are hesitant to carry and use the $3500 gun for ranch work...so you eventually decide to sell it , only to find out that collectors will turn their nose up at it because it has been altered . I got rid of all mine , I guess some folks look at the gunsmith perfected Colt as a thing of beauty and something to be proud of , but in my case I couldn't get past thinking of it as a badge of stupidity on my part.......a $3500 gun that doesn't do a damn thing that a $500 gun wont do . Sure , I would love to be able to buy an American made Colt that was ready for use out of the box and hate that the Italian guns are better, but that is where we are at . Yup
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Post by Jamey Worrell on Feb 28, 2024 8:21:19 GMT -5
Got the same from an older gentleman at the gym when I sent my Dixie Gunworks Uberti Bisley off to Harton for a workover..."why would you spend that on a Uberti?"...well, I'd rather start with a gun with minimal collector value and have no qualms about making it mine, than start with a Colt costing 5X as much. I've got 3 Italian clones and have been pleasantly surprised/pleased with both. Colt ain't what it used to be and the collector market has driven the costs way past astronomical.
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Post by hombre on Feb 28, 2024 11:40:05 GMT -5
Got the same from an older gentleman at the gym when I sent my Dixie Gunworks Uberti Bisley off to Harton for a workover..."why would you spend that on a Uberti?"...well, I'd rather start with a gun with minimal collector value and have no qualms about making it mine, than start with a Colt costing 5X as much. I've got 3 Italian clones and have been pleasantly surprised/pleased with both. Colt ain't what it used to be and the collector market has driven the costs way past astronomical. I'm an older Gent but also a swrewd gun buyer......I spent $800 on a 5 1/2 inch 2nd Gen Colt and had Harton give it a work over for a grand total of $1800 0n the sweetest shooting sixgun I have ever handled. It is chambered in 45 COLT and an extra cylender chambered in 45 ACP.
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Post by rexster on Feb 29, 2024 11:18:14 GMT -5
I am content that my only functional Colt revolvers are a quite uncommon Official Police 2” snub-gun, which is nice user grade, so carry-able, and a Colt Lightning, .38 Colt, which is a safe queen, due to its functional but delicate parts. I can truthfully say “Have Colt, will travel.” (Wink!) My several USFA Single Actions have varying amounts of Uberti parts. One of the times that I very nearly drew a handgun, for defensive reasons, when not in a police uniform, I was not the least bit bothered, in that moment in time, that the only firearm on my person was a USFA Single Action. (I should not have been carrying only a single-action revolver, because I was required to use only DA revolvers and semi-autos, for defensive purposes, on or off the clock. My duty pistol and usual carry revolver were both at home, stripped, covered in Break-Free CLP, at the time.)
Now and then, I will lust for a Second Generation SAA, manufactured about the time I was born, but the affordable ones tend to have turn lines, which indicate that the previous owner(s) did not understand how to properly use an SAA, so, there might be other problems, invisible from the outside.
The one Third Generation SAA that I bought, new, had very poorly-fitted internal parts. The action was horrendous (The dealer had not allowed me to work the action.) I thought about sending this one back to Colt, with a carefully-worded letter of dissatisfaction, but, ended up selling it, with full disclosure of its problems, to a dealer who specialized in collectible-grade firearms, who actually gave me a good price.
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Post by armoredman on Mar 5, 2024 6:14:39 GMT -5
If I may join in? I have had two Uberti black powder revolvers, an 1860 I bought used,and had an excellent gunsmith work over, and this one. New Uberti New Model Army .44. I had two separate gunsmith friends look it over and they said this old warhorse was as close to perfect as it could be as is, and it is a fantastic cap and ball hogleg. But...I wanted to modernize...So, a chance stop at a local C.A.L. Ranch brought this one home. Uberti 1873 Birds Head Old Model in .357 mag, (since I already reload that caliber and don't have anything for 45 Colt), and it just seemed to fit me perfectly. It had the usual "low left" curse I had been warned about and one of the aforementioned gunsmith buddies moved the front sight JUST enough to get her shooting point of aim...then the trouble began. After only 300 or so rounds, the hammer will not lock back at full cock reliably. So the SECOND of the afore mentioned gunsmith buddies now has her in his hands, and will also update springs, slick up the internals, etc., and I look forward to this little one coming home soon, especially since Simply Rugged is making a holster for it right now. Even with this matter, I'd still buy an Uberti revolver. I do have a Pietta, but it's a brass framed Reb 1851 in .44, Ok, but nothing to write home about. That one was reworked by a guy over at another forum. Thank you for reading this.
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Post by armoredman on Mar 8, 2024 22:23:24 GMT -5
Interestingly enough, the gunsmith who repaired the Cattleman II said that internal pins were not properly secured and were walking out. He secured them, replaced springs, etc., and everything works wonderfully now.
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Post by gcf on Mar 11, 2024 18:58:17 GMT -5
I would trade my Cimarron Model P, blackpowder frame for a Harton Colt in a heartbeat. But it is foolish to ignore the value of the Uberti. Don't suppose you've got a pic or two?
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