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Post by ridgerunner on Feb 22, 2024 10:21:43 GMT -5
I watched both videos. My concern is not that the safety notch will fail. My concern is that I will fail. Loading six requires that you carefully lower the hammer down on to the live round and then pull it back to the safety notch. I can be somewhat of a fumble fingers so if my thumb were slip off of the spur the hammer would drop with full force. Then I might have a Baldwin moment.
What I will do is practice, a lot, with empty cartridges until I am comfortable loading six and not slipping off of the hammer spur.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 22, 2024 10:27:04 GMT -5
Make your own decision. As posted earlier, there's more than one right way.
That's why I support education of how things work instead of blanket statements like "there is only one safe way."
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Post by 45dragoon on Feb 22, 2024 10:32:09 GMT -5
I watched both videos. My concern is not that the safety notch will fail. My concern is that I will fail. Loading six requires that you carefully lower the hammer down on to the live round and then pull it back to the safety notch. I can be somewhat of a fumble fingers so if my thumb were slip off of the spur the hammer would drop with full force. Then I might have a Baldwin moment. What I will do is practice, a lot, with empty cartridges until I am comfortable loading six and not slipping off of the hammer spur. Actually, it doesn't. After loading, pulling the hammer to full cock keeps you from fumbling with the cylinder. As you lower the hammer down, you release the trigger so the safety notch can be engaged. There's no reason to go all the way down and then back up. Mike
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Post by ridgerunner on Feb 22, 2024 12:26:22 GMT -5
I'll try that Mike.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 22, 2024 19:00:31 GMT -5
I'm perfectly comfortable with 5 rounds. Have been for 40 years now.
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Post by Cholla on Feb 23, 2024 1:41:55 GMT -5
There's a real and valid reason not to carry any SAA or clone with six rounds chambered. It was discovered right after the first ones were delivered. If you have ever saddled a horse you will know about this. To buckle the cinch, it's normal to flip the stirrup up on top of the saddle so it's out of the way. It's not unusual for it to slip off when you pull up on the cinch. The metal stirrup is now basically a hammer that will rip out the safety notch and fire the gun. There's been many a cowboy with a Colt limp. Straight out of SIXGUNS. The dude saddling the horse dropped the stirrup off the saddle horn and onto the hammer of his revolver. So not many a cowboy, but one that we know of. While carrying a Colt-style SA loaded with six and making use of the safety notch I have successfully and without incident saddled a horse, rode said horse, worked cattle, crawled in and out of, through and over pipe corrals, cut, hauled and stacked firewood, built and repaired barbed-wire fence, climbed on and off of a tractor...I could go on and on but the secret is to always, ALWAYS be aware of where your revolver is relative to what's going on around you. Some people get this, others don't. Safeties don't fail, PEOPLE fail.
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 23, 2024 6:19:32 GMT -5
"Safeties don't fail, PEOPLE fail"
This is the discussion wrapped up in one sentence. It's like telling me not to drive my pickup because someone wrecked one before.
That being said, nothing wrong with carrying one loaded with 5. It's good to adapt to our preferences in order to be comfortable.
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Post by rjm52 on Feb 23, 2024 7:37:36 GMT -5
...how many people carry a semi-auto without a round in the chamber...LOTS. Is it wrong, no, but I saw one video of a jewelry store owner who had a gun pulled on him and flubbed the rack and got shot because of it...
How about the 1911...Condition I, II or III...all safe but some people just can't take the sight of the hammer at full cock...
Education and practice is the key...some people just don't want to put in the time.
Bob
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 23, 2024 8:01:15 GMT -5
Remember the hysteria when Glocks came out? Probably 40 years ago or more.
People screaming about no safety. Exaggerated reports of guns going off when upholstered?
Now, one of the most trusted self defense guns if not THE most trusted defense guns...
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Post by rjm52 on Feb 23, 2024 8:19:56 GMT -5
Remember the hysteria when Glocks came out? Probably 40 years ago or more. People screaming about no safety. Exaggerated reports of guns going off when upholstered? Now, one of the most trusted self defense guns if not THE most trusted defense guns... ...see my post over in Other Handguns...
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Post by hombre on Feb 26, 2024 19:30:51 GMT -5
IF you want an authentic SSA then the second generation COLT is the only way to go. It will keep it's value like a Harley Davidson KnuckelHead and just as fun LOL.....
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 26, 2024 19:59:14 GMT -5
IF you want an authentic SSA then the second generation COLT is the only way to go. It will keep it's value like a Harley Davidson KnuckelHead and just as fun LOL..... Why would you want an authentic one when you can get a better one for so much less? You may luck into a properly dimensioned Colt that rivals any Uberti, but it isn't luck finding a properly dimensioned Uberti.
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Post by hombre on Feb 26, 2024 21:54:09 GMT -5
Why would you want a Uberti when you have a "properly" Alan Harton worked over COLT....?
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Post by Cholla on Feb 26, 2024 22:19:44 GMT -5
Why would you want a Uberti when you have a "properly" Alan Harton worked over COLT....? I've owned 3 or 4 3rd Generation Colts and I just couldn't bring myself to send a $1500-$2000 revolver to a gunsmith to be corrected. The very last Uberti I bought got a wire bolt/trigger spring which made the already close timing perfect and dropped the trigger pull from 3 to 2 lbs., and an 11° forcing cone clean-up by me. That's all it needed to shoot hand-size groups at 75 yds. I wanted to like the Colt's I owned but realized I was only buying them for the name.
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Post by Stump Buster on Feb 26, 2024 22:44:08 GMT -5
Does anyone know if the EMF US Marshal 45ACP cylinder can be loaded with 45AR cases, or is the rim too wide to fit? If so, which safety/hammer system does this one come with? Like the looks of the unfluted cylinder for the ACP and possible AR option.
Thanks,
Mike
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