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Post by sackpeterson on Feb 19, 2024 9:48:03 GMT -5
I like both guns, and have multiple copies of both..They are both solid. Pietta's actions are I would say consistently ootb better. I like Uberti's overall ever so more because the exteriors get finished off a touch better, at least the last 10 years.
This thing about being traditional vs the Colt.... When Uberti's 4 click version is compared to Pietta's 4 click version, the only difference is Pietta has a 1.655 cylinder width and Uberti's is 1.675. So you'd say Pietta's is more blueprint historical, but Uberti''s is a blueprint improvement, and you can't really see it with your eyes anyway. Uberti's is really not any less historical vs the Colt, not in any meaningful way.
Pietta is very limited in caliber choices. .45, .44-40, .357. Oh, 9mm I guess.
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Post by 45dragoon on Feb 19, 2024 21:11:10 GMT -5
I'll just say working on them every day, I'd much rather tune the Uberti than the Pietta. The MIM parts in the Pietta are hard, modern versions of '70's parts. The bolt arms are equally (too) thick and the hand is harder to work with if it needs stretching (MIM as well). The Uberti parts are cut steel, easier to work with, the left bolt arm is thin as it should be (like original Colt).
As has been mentioned, the larger Uberti cylinder easily allows +p loads whereas my Pietta made 45C Frontier (Cimarron) needed to find NEW headspace when I switched back to the 45C cyl after just 5 45acp +p's (Hornady Critical Duty)!! After that experience I measured and found the '58 Remington (Pietta) I have has a thicker and wider top strap than the Frontier so, when I get a chance I'll see if it handles +p 45C rounds (Kirst gated conversion) any better . . . heck, I may be getting rid of 2 Pietta's!!! Lol
Mike
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Post by kings6 on Feb 19, 2024 21:25:05 GMT -5
Which Uberti models are traditional 4 click models? I mean other than the early USFA Uberti parts guns I’ve owned🤣
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Post by 45dragoon on Feb 20, 2024 8:49:16 GMT -5
Which Uberti models are traditional 4 click models? I mean other than the early USFA Uberti parts guns I’ve owned🤣 As far as current models, the bp frame is a 4 clicker I think. I've made a "user friendly" safety delete which replaces the spring and plunger in the hammer. Of course that makes it a 5 shooter. That allows the "safety" parts to be reinstalled if you want to load 6 or are going to sell it. Always bugs me a little when folks permanently remove safety mechanisms. Mike
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Post by gnappi on Feb 20, 2024 8:49:38 GMT -5
Which Uberti models are traditional 4 click models? I mean other than the early USFA Uberti parts guns I’ve owned🤣 Neither of my Uberti made Thunderer revolvers are 4 click but my Pietta built "Texas Ranger" is 4 click.
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Post by ridgerunner on Feb 20, 2024 20:09:53 GMT -5
My Pietta (TC9 by Taylors and Company) is a four clicker. I can't compare it to anything because I don't own anything else. I've done a lot of reading about single action revolvers and based on that and on my short time here on this forum I really think the TC9 is an excellent piece. Fit and finish are excellent. The action is smooth and it seems to be accurate.
I would love to hear from someone on here that owns one and what they think of it.
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Post by gnappi on Feb 21, 2024 6:05:29 GMT -5
My Pietta (TC9 by Taylors and Company) is a four clicker. I can't compare it to anything because I don't own anything else. I've done a lot of reading about single action revolvers and based on that and on my short time here on this forum I really think the TC9 is an excellent piece. Fit and finish are excellent. The action is smooth and it seems to be accurate. I would love to hear from someone on here that owns one and what they think of it. The "Texas Ranger" is an 1873 and I agree with you 100%. Its cocking action is so smooth the first time I took it to the range I swore the primer strike would be insufficient and I did not think it would fire, it did... many times so the spring tension was no worry. :-) The only issues I have with it is on occasion is the base pin will scoot out a bit and if I push it in all the way as I would on another SA the "Swiss safe" will engage. My life doesn't depend on it and it's easy enough to see the end of the base pin in the frame under the hammer and disengage it, so no biggie. ridgerunner does yours have a Swiss safety? From the pix I see on Gun Broker, the base pin seems to protrude a lot forward (safe off) like on mine which has two notches in the BP. See: americanhandgunner.com/our-experts/the-sixgunner/uberti-44-magnum/
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Post by rWt on Feb 21, 2024 7:04:05 GMT -5
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Post by gnappi on Feb 21, 2024 7:27:12 GMT -5
I was unaware that they could be converted, thx. I like his "High Performance" holster!
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Post by Encore64 on Feb 21, 2024 8:13:00 GMT -5
While my FA97s are my favorite revolvers, nothing makes me smile like the Uberti Flattop Targets.
They're like shooting history that performs like modern guns. Had to be quite desirable in their day...
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Post by ridgerunner on Feb 21, 2024 8:41:17 GMT -5
Gary, mine does have the "Swiss Safety". It's not been a problem. I just don't understand why the revolvers need such a thing.?
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Post by gnappi on Feb 21, 2024 9:11:20 GMT -5
Gary, mine does have the "Swiss Safety". It's not been a problem. I just don't understand why the revolvers need such a thing.? Agreed, the safety isn't a problem. I read that the safety had something to do with export / import restrictions to some countries. I guess it's logical for Pietta to make one model rather than make several based on where they're delivered? I also read that Uberti has had some models with the Swiss safety.
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Post by sackpeterson on Feb 21, 2024 10:12:24 GMT -5
It is an import mandate. It came about post 1968 GCA. There's a few mechanisms that were used to make a safety for an Italian SA.
The Jager / Hammerli hammer wheel safety Two position Swiss safety, that I guess Hammerli must have come up with for the Virginian first. Got used in many others, ASM, Uberti, Pietta Uberti hammer block in the hammer that will actuate in the 1/4 cock notch The very crude Jager 2 position base pin safety Various transfer bars Now, the Uberti firing pin actuator thingy
The way I think I understand it properly, is Uberti's bp base pin models they sell to Cimarron are 4 clickers, and they have a 2 position Swiss safety to still meet the import requirement.
Pietta's 4 clickers use the Swiss base pin, their others have a transfer bar.
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Post by ridgerunner on Feb 21, 2024 10:56:37 GMT -5
The "Swiss Safety" does what it's supposed to do. It keeps the hammer away from the primer. But so does the first click.
I watched a video a while back where a guy was showing why Alec Baldwin had to pull the trigger. He used the same Pietta that Baldwin used. To shorten the story......he wanted to show how safe these wheel guns are. He put an empty cartridge with a live primer in the cylinder. He left hammer down on the primer and then hit the hammer several times with an AR 15 clip trying to make it fire. He couldn't hit it hard enough to make it go bang. So with the hammer back on first click I have to think they are very safe. That said, I will still always load one skip one load four. I doubt I'll ever use the Swiss Safety.
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Post by parallaxbill on Feb 21, 2024 16:05:55 GMT -5
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