44mag
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Post by 44mag on Feb 16, 2024 17:01:58 GMT -5
I recently bought a 85' era Redhawk from a local gun shop for $575, and glad I did, not saying all new production one aren't good, but they aren't available now a days.
I was told by a Ruger rep that the Redhawks and and Black hawks aren't in demand. I only see used ones on GB and local shop displays.
My groove diameter is .431 and the cylinder throats are .4325 With a .432 cast I can get around the oversized throats. I have a .431 lube sizer die but haven't seen a .432. I could have one honed out to .432
I bought .431 jacketed bullets from Roze distributors. Pretty good deal and pretty accurately made. .0002 under to .005 over, most are almost dead on. I read about .001 to .0015 is ok for a throat to be a little over the bullet diameter and bore, but should be tighter for casts to prevent leading.
I emailed Ruger about a new cylinder at .4315 rather than the one I have at .4325. They want the whole gun to service it and would they consider replacing it as warranty?
I ran into Bowen Classic Arms and wondered if they can make me a new cylinder without the gun, just me sending in my cylinder. I heard Ruger is going down hill, the company is just carrying the name.
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Post by Odin on Feb 16, 2024 18:02:05 GMT -5
Buffalo Arms carries custom size dies. You might have to backorder it (they might need to make one), but they are available.
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Post by bradshaw on Feb 16, 2024 18:52:08 GMT -5
I recently bought a 85' era Redhawk from a local gun shop for $575, and glad I did, not saying all new production one aren't good, but they aren't available now a days. I was told by a Ruger rep that the Redhawks and and Black hawks aren't in demand. I only see used ones on GB and local shop displays. My groove diameter is .431 and the cylinder throats are .4325 With a .432 cast I can get around the oversized throats. I have a .431 lube sizer die but haven't seen a .432. I could have one honed out to .432 I bought .431 jacketed bullets from Roze distributors. Pretty good deal and pretty accurately made. .0002 under to .005 over, most are almost dead on. I read about .001 to .0015 is ok for a throat to be a little over the bullet diameter and bore, but should be tighter for casts to prevent leading. I emailed Ruger about a new cylinder at .4315 rather than the one I have at .4325. They want the whole gun to service it and would they consider replacing it as warranty? I ran into Bowen Classic Arms and wondered if they can make me a new cylinder without the gun, just me sending in my cylinder. I heard Ruger is going down hill, the company is just carrying the name. ***** Want to meet the silhouette champion so obsessed with measurements to 1/10,000 inch as you. Can’t think of a one I’ve burned powder with who’d p[lace an individual revolver dimension above drilling down @ 100 and 200 meters to discern a revolver’s chance to succeed on the Firing Line. You haven’t even mentioned the FORCING CONE, the single tooling aspect with the power to make or break the finest barrel. Also absent, mention of CHAMBER-to-BORE ALIGNMENT and uniformity of bore & groove. Beyond the trigger, I wouldn't touch a thing on your Redhawk without an intervention called for by the Firing Line. David Bradshaw |
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Post by bigmuddy on Feb 16, 2024 18:52:39 GMT -5
Did you shoot the gun and find a problem?
Dan
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44mag
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Post by 44mag on Feb 16, 2024 19:42:46 GMT -5
Dave.....
It needs tighter tolerances as far as I'm concerned, gas seal throat area, you disagree that's fine. I'll get a better fit at the throats with a .432 cast. With jacketed it is what it is.
Dan..... I shot the gun and .429 bullets don't reach the grooves after 50 rounds. I have to load the .431's next to see how it shoots with a peep sight instead of tangent rear sight.
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Post by tullymars on Feb 16, 2024 20:14:55 GMT -5
I recently bought a 85' era Redhawk from a local gun shop for $575, and glad I did, not saying all new production one aren't good, but they aren't available now a days. I was told by a Ruger rep that the Redhawks and and Black hawks aren't in demand. I only see used ones on GB and local shop displays. My groove diameter is .431 and the cylinder throats are .4325 With a .432 cast I can get around the oversized throats. I have a .431 lube sizer die but haven't seen a .432. I could have one honed out to .432 I bought .431 jacketed bullets from Roze distributors. Pretty good deal and pretty accurately made. .0002 under to .005 over, most are almost dead on. I read about .001 to .0015 is ok for a throat to be a little over the bullet diameter and bore, but should be tighter for casts to prevent leading. I emailed Ruger about a new cylinder at .4315 rather than the one I have at .4325. They want the whole gun to service it and would they consider replacing it as warranty? I ran into Bowen Classic Arms and wondered if they can make me a new cylinder without the gun, just me sending in my cylinder. I heard Ruger is going down hill, the company is just carrying the name. As you are not soliciting help with your new gun and seem to know what you want, I say carry on and good luck. |
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Post by bushog on Feb 16, 2024 20:25:36 GMT -5
\ I ran into Bowen Classic Arms and wondered if they can make me a new cylinder without the gun, just me sending in my cylinder. I heard Ruger is going down hill, the company is just carrying the name. I'd give $$ to be a fly-on-the wall for that conversation... |
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44mag
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Post by 44mag on Feb 16, 2024 20:27:37 GMT -5
Tullymars
just asking for what would be a better option Ruger or Bowen ?
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Post by bushog on Feb 16, 2024 20:51:16 GMT -5
Tullymars just asking for what would be a better option Ruger or Bowen ? Ruger... The Bowen option is going to cost more than a new revolver.... |
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44mag
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Post by 44mag on Feb 16, 2024 21:01:47 GMT -5
Tullymars just asking for what would be a better option Ruger or Bowen ? Ruger... The Bowen option is going to cost more than a new revolver.... Didn't see the listing for a new cylinder on thier website, but I'll take your word for it. Had a feeling but I figured I'd ask. Newb I am I am ! Guess From Rugers stand point they cover thier backs with a little give. |
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nicholst55
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Post by nicholst55 on Feb 16, 2024 21:24:57 GMT -5
Tullymars just asking for what would be a better option Ruger or Bowen ? Ruger... The Bowen option is going to cost more than a new revolver.... Hamilton quoted me a 4-digit figure for making a new .475 Linebaugh cylinder for my .480 Ruger Bisley Super Blackhawk. Just about the same price as a BFR revolver in .475 Linebaugh. |
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 16, 2024 22:30:48 GMT -5
Check with Reeder about a new cylinder. My 475L and 500L Redhawks by him are great. Just be sure he leaves off the engraving!
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44mag
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Post by 44mag on Feb 17, 2024 2:19:16 GMT -5
Check with Reeder about a new cylinder. My 475L and 500L Redhawks by him are great. Just be sure he leaves off the engraving! 650 |
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44mag
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Post by 44mag on Feb 17, 2024 2:26:20 GMT -5
I recently bought a 85' era Redhawk from a local gun shop for $575, and glad I did, not saying all new production one aren't good, but they aren't available now a days. I was told by a Ruger rep that the Redhawks and and Black hawks aren't in demand. I only see used ones on GB and local shop displays. My groove diameter is .431 and the cylinder throats are .4325 With a .432 cast I can get around the oversized throats. I have a .431 lube sizer die but haven't seen a .432. I could have one honed out to .432 I bought .431 jacketed bullets from Roze distributors. Pretty good deal and pretty accurately made. .0002 under to .005 over, most are almost dead on. I read about .001 to .0015 is ok for a throat to be a little over the bullet diameter and bore, but should be tighter for casts to prevent leading. I emailed Ruger about a new cylinder at .4315 rather than the one I have at .4325. They want the whole gun to service it and would they consider replacing it as warranty? I ran into Bowen Classic Arms and wondered if they can make me a new cylinder without the gun, just me sending in my cylinder. I heard Ruger is going down hill, the company is just carrying the name. ***** Want to meet the silhouette champion so obsessed with measurements to 1/10,000 inch as you. Can’t think of a one I’ve burned powder with who’d p[lace an individual revolver dimension above drilling down @ 100 and 200 meters to discern a revolver’s chance to succeed on the Firing Line. You haven’t even mentioned the FORCING CONE, the single tooling aspect with the power to make or break the finest barrel. Also absent, mention of CHAMBER-to-BORE ALIGNMENT and uniformity of bore & groove. Beyond the trigger, I wouldn't touch a thing on your Redhawk without an intervention called for by the Firing Line. David Bradshaw You haven’t even mentioned the FORCING CONE, the single tooling aspect with the power to make or break the finest barrel. Also absent, mention of CHAMBER-to-BORE ALIGNMENT and uniformity of bore & groove. You said this Bradshaw in ANOTHER POST Yes l did mention about chamber-to- bore misalignment, but seems like you missed it, back and read my OP, about loose throats. But other than that what else do ya wanna know ? |
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Post by magpouch on Feb 17, 2024 7:32:48 GMT -5
Sure looks to me like you haven't mentioned the chamber-to- bore alignment, but I'm not real sure how you'd measure it either...
Also looks like you have something to work with. I don't see an issue with your cylinder, how does it shoot?
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