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Post by warhawk on Jan 9, 2018 21:46:44 GMT -5
Max, I received the package from you today, many thanks. I’ve been getting the American Rifleman for many, many years and rarely see AMERICAN HUNTER. Maybe I need to sign my dog up with the NRA. One of my old hunting buddies stayed single until he was about 35. He had a great job and lived in a tiny rent house, saving every penny he could for hunting trips. He hunted lions in Utah twice, first time he used his only handgun a Colt Trooper in 357, unfortunately the hide spoiled and he didn’t get a mount. On the second hunt the snow was very deep and after a fall or two his Colt was packed with snow and he used the guide’s rifle, a Winchester 22 Magnum, to drop the treed cat. He had this one done in a full body mount. This is about as close as I ever got to killing a lion. My dogs treed it, I shot it with a Ruger 22 and it jumped out of the tree and my big walker Flint killed it on the ground. Another one killed many years later on a Texas hog hunt, 135 yards with a 45-70. f
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Post by dougader on Jan 9, 2018 22:54:22 GMT -5
I got the AH issue from Max, too, and what a great hunt and trophy!
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Post by sixshot on Jan 10, 2018 0:14:11 GMT -5
Well, glad to see you used enough gun on that Bobbie! I used my Ruger #1 45/70 on a fox one time, it's all I had with me. He didn't seem to mind!
Dick
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Post by tradmark on Jan 10, 2018 0:18:18 GMT -5
Lion hunts are awesome and that was the best written article ive seen in a long time. Seyfried-esque imho. True story, my cousin was at a corporate deer hunt. He was the only revolver hunter there. About 12 guys. He came in late from the blind and the topic at dinner was this great article in AH about revolver hunting a mt lion. They were all intrigued and asked my cousin how his gun stacked up to max’s in the article and he explained it was the sam cal and that he had hunted 2x with max. All were intrigued and loved the article and it piqued an interest in revolver hunting and thats the highest praise an article can have!! Ok
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Post by tradmark on Jan 10, 2018 0:20:02 GMT -5
Warhawk. Nice cats. Ive never gotten one. I need one.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jan 10, 2018 1:14:49 GMT -5
I've always had terrible luck with Bobcats. I have actually killed quite a few of them. Problem in S. Texas is killing one with a good pelt. We do have some big ones though. The big ones however seem to be the roughest on the outside for some reason. Maybe they do a lot of fighting over territory or something. I pretty much unzipped a good one at about 175 yards one time with my 7mm Magnum. I had a good angle on him and as I was squeezing and he sorta just turned lengthwise into the bullet. What a mess. Since that time, I have frequently taken a Bobcat specific, usually a Contender, firearm up in the blind with me just in case.
Some people say we have some Mountain Lions running around down here. I've never seen one, but the people who have told me about them are damn hard to doubt. We ain't even got any mountains!
Warhawk! Great cats!! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by Robster on Jan 10, 2018 7:48:41 GMT -5
I've been on three dry ground horseback lion hunts for a total of 15 days (which reminds me I have to get the pictures up of December's hunt with my son) Still have not gotten a lion. Did get some great hound music as they cold trailed though.
The only cat I got was a nice AZ bobcat which I had mounted. Took it with my Harton custom .44 special which has been on every hunt with me since.
Nice looking cat you got, that is my favorite hunts. Hounds on bobcat of lion. Any more good stories and pics Warhawk? I'd love to hear them.
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Post by whitworth on Jan 10, 2018 10:42:53 GMT -5
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Post by jfs on Jan 10, 2018 11:01:24 GMT -5
Great stuff Max..... and of God Almighty`s biggest cats.
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Post by whitworth on Jan 10, 2018 11:03:50 GMT -5
Great stuff Max..... and of God Almighty`s biggest cats. Thanks a bunch, James!
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Post by sixshot on Jan 10, 2018 14:21:47 GMT -5
A Lion hunt is a very unique & exciting hunt that you will never forget if you get the chance to go on one. Many, many people have hunted the western states all their lives & never seen one, they are the ultimate predator. Trust me, if you've hunted the west very many times a Lion has seen you. Anyone who has hunted them will tell you the excitement is in the chase, the hounds barking, climbing through brush, rocks, snow, maybe crossing water, frozen streams, etc. It can get pretty crazy but in the end seeing that magnificent cat up that tree is a sight you will never forget, they are truly beautiful animals!
The guide, if you have one will tie up the hounds so the Lion doesn't kill one or more when he comes down the tree, either wounded or maybe just trying to escape & then you make your shot. Just be sure when you book a hunt you check out the Outfitter/Guide & make sure he gives you references, there are many out there that will take you on a "canned" hunt. That is, they trap a Lion in advance, keep it in a cage & then contact a client with the cash & tell him to get there quick, he gets to the airport & they turn the cat loose an hour before he steps off the plane & 2 hours later he's killed his Lion & they are slapping him on the back & telling him how lucky he is! "Man, most guys come & spend 4-5 days" you got lucky & got yours in just a few hours. Be sure & look at your cat & see if the claws are torn or the hide is rough from being in a cage & fighting to get out. It's much more common than you think. We ran one out of the country a few years back that was doing "canned" hunts & making a huge amount of money, here & in Nevada.
In our area we are on a quota system, once we take 15 females they close the season, I think it's 15, might be more. We have a lot of Lions locally. I go from time to time but will never take another one but they are one of the greatest animals on the planet.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Jan 10, 2018 16:29:25 GMT -5
you guys shooting cats got more of something than I do... I just know the farm cats I've had to shoot in the past were much more "resilient" than most other animals I've shot... & a COM shot is pretty much worthless unless you hit the spine... when I was a kid, we had to shoot some sick farm cats, my dad wanted me to shoot them all with my lil single shot .410... easy job, on the 1st couple, but after that, I couldn't get within 20 yards of them, & trust me, a .410 doesn't pack enough punch at 25 yards, & the old Stevens did not have an adjustable choke, & the pattern spread too much... & just made a mess after that, I just never had much sport for shooting cats... a few years ago, the neighbors biggest old tom cat tried to squeeze out between a seam of sheet metal siding, & & got it's back leg hung up, on the way out... with the metal cutting into it about 10 ft off the ground, she called me... her 4 year old daughter crying in the back ground... please come over & put it out of it's misery ( her husband was at work )... I got there & blood was running down the side of the building, & the cat was thrashing like you know what... I chose a 22 since I didn't want to shoot anything too loud for her daughter's sake, & of course they didn't want any holes in the side of their shed...it was hard to hit the brain or spine with the way the cat was flopping around, even from 5-6 ft away... however, 2 shots, & everything was calm again... I have an Alaskan brown bear hunt, in my bucket, for someday... I'll leave the big cats to those better at it than I
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Post by warhawk on Jan 10, 2018 19:13:59 GMT -5
Well, glad to see you used enough gun on that Bobbie! I used my Ruger #1 45/70 on a fox one time, it's all I had with me. He didn't seem to mind! Dick Shot him thru the heart, the pic shows the off side. Nice .45 caliber hole on each side. Wasn’t torn up at all. One thing for sure, I didn’t have to do any tracking.
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Post by warhawk on Jan 10, 2018 19:21:42 GMT -5
Warhawk. Nice cats. Ive never gotten one. I need one. As a coon hunter, you trry to train your dogs to ignore bobcats, possums, etc. doesn’t always work. I had a little runt of the litter female walker, Annie. She was very timid, but she had the best nose of any dog I ever saw. And she was very fast on track, that first bobcat she treed by herself in just 2or 3 minutes after she struck the track. But one of her flaws was that she wouldn’t stay treed, when the other dogs got there she would take off. The pic below shows Annie, she treed the bobcat ... and Flint, he killed it.
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Post by jsh on Jan 10, 2018 22:23:29 GMT -5
Warhawk, hunted behind a big old red tick hound that did the same thing pretty much, Rooster was his name. He would stay with the other dogs until you got there with the light, then was gone shortly. Came in on him one night with no light on and got the leash on him and the others. Buddy showed up shortly, knocked the coon out of the tree and let that old red hound loose, by himself. The fight was on! Turned the others loose too. That red hound never left the tree again. That may have caused a problem though. After that, the SOB ended up being the skunk killingest bastard I ever saw. One night he had to have killed at least two. Old fart would come up to you wagging his tail wanting to be petted, like he had some of that channel #5 on.
Dick, you say you won't take another lion? Is that because you arent young and spry enough to climb a tree and look another one in the eye? :-) Jeff
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