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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 1, 2017 13:59:52 GMT -5
Hey Amigo , Have you put any thought into doing any simple chamber reaming on some of the common wants ? 32 long to 32 mag , 32 mag to .327, 22lr to 22 mag etc. Could be a way to eat up a little more of your spare time ? I actually haven't had any such requests.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 2, 2017 14:48:59 GMT -5
A potential client asked me about a "bulk" rate if he sent me several cylinders.
I explained that in that case, what I would do is lay out the cylinders and pin gauge them all and mark each individual chamber with a sharpie so I would know in advance what pilot I would need for that chamber. That would eliminate having to set up the pilot multiple times for each cylinder.
So, lets say I get three 32 cylinders. On the first cylinder 3 chambers measure .309", on the 2nd 2 chambers measure .309" and on the 3rd cylinder 1 chamber measures .309". That is 6 total throats on 3 cylinders I can address with one pilot set up. So you can see, total time on tools is reduced, cost is reduced.
One more thing, if you are going to send multiple cylinders, besides cleaning the cylinders, how about putting each individual cylinder in its own ziplock baggie with the last 4 digits of the serial number on a business card or something in the baggie so we don't get them mixed up....
fermin
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Post by sixshot on Jul 4, 2017 11:14:57 GMT -5
I've known Fermin for 10 years now & one thing I can promise you, he knows a whole lot more about guns than he's telling you. He went to gunsmithing school at Colorado School of Trades, the same school my son went to & he's very good at what he does. A little known secret is that when some of the top pistol smiths get behind Fermin jumps in & helps them out, they trust him & his work because he's that good. His prices are way more than fair & his turn around time is as good as it gets, plus he just flat loves sixguns! One last thing, I've never met a more honest person, nough said!
Dick
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Post by foxtrapper on Jul 4, 2017 12:51:47 GMT -5
I've known Fermin for 10 years now & one thing I can promise you, he knows a whole more about guns than he's telling you. He went to gunsmithing school at Colorado School of Trades, the same school my son went to & he's very good at what he does. A little known secret is that when some of the top pistol smiths get behind Fermin jumps in & helps them out, they trust him & his work because he's that good. His prices are way more than fair & his turn around time is as good as it gets, plus he just flat loves sixguns! One last thing, I've never met a more honest person, nough said! Dick X2!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 4, 2017 13:10:46 GMT -5
Ok, so when you send me a PM, what I do is provide you with my
Name Address Phone number email address
That way, I can be found if you have a question. I will do my best to answer any sixgun related issue questions you have. BUT, to help me help you, I suggest you not only program my information into your phone, but you also provide me with your complete contact information so I can have it in my phone. Most guys on here go by an internet handle, and as I am interacting with more and more of the fella's I find it easier to keep track of what I am doing if I have your name AND your handle in my phone.
I realize not everybody wants to read these threads word for word. Still, it would help me a lot if you would take a minute to clean your cylinder before you send it. If you are sending more than one cylinder, think about putting each one in an individual zip lock with a card that has say the 3 or 4 of the serial number so it can go back into the right sixgun.
You might also consider sending a few of the cast bullets you are shooting. It absolutely does you no good to shoot bullets that are too small through your correctly sized cylinder throat as often gas blow by will result in leading. There some other considerations as well. For example, I have seen where a really soft bullet, driven too hard, even if of correct diameter and in a sixgun with proper dimensions will still lead because the grease is being "squeezed" out of the grease groove at the forcing cone since the bullet is being both kicked in the butt and running into the rifling at the shoulder and cannot maintain it's integrity long enough for the lube to make it into the barrel.
As I said, there is a whole list of things that are soooo much easier for me to explain to you over the phone rather than trying to text it or type it all out.
Thanks for all of you taking time to PM me. I hope I am answering all your questions as we go along.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 4, 2017 13:16:01 GMT -5
I've known Fermin for 10 years now & one thing I can promise you, he knows a whole more about guns than he's telling you. He went to gunsmithing school at Colorado School of Trades, the same school my son went to & he's very good at what he does. A little known secret is that when some of the top pistol smiths get behind Fermin jumps in & helps them out, they trust him & his work because he's that good. His prices are way more than fair & his turn around time is as good as it gets, plus he just flat loves sixguns! One last thing, I've never met a more honest person, nough said! Dick X2! Easy now, don't lift my skirt too high! You'll give away all my secrets!
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Post by bushog on Jul 4, 2017 20:47:52 GMT -5
EEEKKKkkkk!
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 7, 2017 0:23:02 GMT -5
I was talking to a client today. We were discussing Rugers new .480 5 shot. He is seeing leading and was considering firelapping his barrel.
He is not a caster, he buys his bullets. His bullets are gas checked but they are .476" diameter according to the maker.
While I have not measured his particular cylinder, the .480 Rugers I have measured display .477" throats. This means you need a .477"+ diameter bullet.
So, I asked him to send me the cylinder so I could pin gauge the throats as well as some of his bullets so I could measure them with a micrometer and see exactly what diameter they were. I also suggested he go down to the fishing supply store and get some of those football shaped fishing weights with a hole in the middle. They are plumb soft. You clean your barrel, lightly lube it, and drive that slug down the barrel. If there is a tight spot or restriction at the threads, trust me on this, you WILL feel it.
So, again, get with me if you are having leading issues. There are only so many components. They must be addressed in a logical order. Sometimes what we discover is what we truly have is an alignment issue. That calls for a different remedy.
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Shakey
.327 Meteor
Central Arkansas
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Post by Shakey on Jul 7, 2017 1:29:53 GMT -5
A word of caution...... Some of "those football shaped fishing weights with a hole in the middle" are not at all soft, ...maybe not even lead. Check to be sure they are truly soft lead before trying to hammer them through your barrel.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 7, 2017 1:42:30 GMT -5
A word of caution...... Some of "those football shaped fishing weights with a hole in the middle" are not at all soft, ...maybe not even lead. Check to be sure they are truly soft lead before trying to hammer them through your barrel. Hmmm, that's the great thing about a forum like this. Lots of hands on experience. You should be able to scratch that sinker with your fingernail. Or measure it at about 6-7 BHN.
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jsh
.327 Meteor
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Post by jsh on Jul 7, 2017 6:46:25 GMT -5
I had the same thoughts on the weights. I bought some a while back for fishing, I was setting a rig up and tried to scratch one. Nope, took my pocket knife to it, I think they are zinc. Nice and shiney, but just didn't feel right.
With that being brought up, makes me think of another lathe project for learning purposes. Some aluminum bar stock and I could make up some slug molds. Lol, more tooling to the list. Jeff
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 7, 2017 10:24:57 GMT -5
Jeff, that's a great idea. You could make one end a bit tapered to start easier...
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Shakey
.327 Meteor
Central Arkansas
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Post by Shakey on Jul 7, 2017 14:43:43 GMT -5
If you can't find sinkers of the appropriate size and hardness, look for muzzleloader bullets or round balls. Also, LBT sells push through slugs made specifically for this. A bit pricey at $8.00/20pack but some may find it worthwhile. If I were going to make a mold to create my own push through slugs, I would at least take a look at Verals for ideas. lbtmolds.com/measurebore.shtml
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Post by 2 Dogs on Jul 9, 2017 16:18:39 GMT -5
1. Ok, so I did a 32 H&R cylinder for a client yesterday. It was interesting because every one of his throats measured .311". So, I was able to measure it in a short period of time as well as cut all 6 throats with the same pilot set up on the reamer. Total 40 bucks. Not saying that will happen every time but still.
2. Hittman has an interesting issue. The question is, are his .30 carbine throats so undersized the backpressue is causing sticky extraction? Will keep you .30 Carbine guys in the loop.
Or, even better, any Ruger 30 Carbine shooters have sticky extraction go away AFTER correcting undersized cylinder throats???
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Post by boolitdesigner on Jul 9, 2017 18:05:10 GMT -5
Jeff, that's a great idea. You could make one end a bit tapered to start easier... This is what S&W did in their 45 ACP Mountain Gun. That was accomplished with a taper starting at about half the way from the chamber edge to the throat edge and being about 35 degrees draft angle to the throat. That stopped leading at the chamber front and gave it a lot better results shooting and cleaning it.
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