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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 1, 2016 19:40:28 GMT -5
Here's the 44 Terminator:
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 1, 2016 19:42:49 GMT -5
What we need now is 15 guys to commit to a buy. This is a .44 Special bullet with the 640 nose design specifically for the Ruger 44 special sixguns!!
Let us know.
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Post by fanofthefortyone on Oct 1, 2016 19:48:07 GMT -5
I'm in for at least one, 4 cavity? Ronnie
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jdoc
.327 Meteor
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Post by jdoc on Oct 1, 2016 19:53:34 GMT -5
I could take one or two. Depends on options available. Don't think I need a gas checked version. My most used load is a 240 grain bullet over 7.5 grains Unique.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 2, 2016 15:03:58 GMT -5
I really like this one. I'm going to start a group buy list on it shortly.
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paulg
.375 Atomic
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Post by paulg on Oct 3, 2016 5:48:41 GMT -5
Showing my mucho grande ignorance here but would this bullet be fine loaded in a magnum case at special levels?
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Post by boolitdesigner on Oct 3, 2016 8:29:47 GMT -5
Look at the picture, it tells you how much sticks out from the case. In this case, it's 0.41". Add that to your case length and see if your cylinder is long enough.
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paulg
.375 Atomic
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Post by paulg on Oct 3, 2016 9:48:03 GMT -5
So after a conversation with another forum member it seems I might be trying to fit a square peg in a round hole so to speak. This bullet is being designed for THE .44 special specifically and my mentioned efforts at making it work in a magnum case for a magnum revolver is misplaced as there are, I'm told, molds by boolitdesigner and others that are better suited for my needs. Like I mentioned I'm new to this and I apologize for wasting all of your time. Thanks again.
Paul
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 3, 2016 10:51:36 GMT -5
So after a conversation with another forum member it seems I might be trying to fit a square peg in a round hole so to speak. This bullet is being designed for THE .44 special specifically and my mentioned efforts at making it work in a magnum case for a magnum revolver is misplaced as there are, I'm told, molds by boolitdesigner and others that are better suited for my needs. Like I mentioned I'm new to this and I apologize for wasting all of your time. Thanks again. Paul Excuse me Paul, but you are in no way wasting our time. For example, in this particular case, you ask about a bullet that is specifically set up to maximize available case space in a 44 special Ruger. You ask if this particular bullet would work in another application. I must point out that the answer is a resounding YES. Of course. The next question you might ask would be how? Well, many of us have simply ignored the crimp groove when seating cast bullets to achieve a particular result or to use that cast bullet for an application that it may not have been designed. Myself, Jeff Hoover, and David Bradshaw have all DEEP seated cast bullets to fit a short cylinder or to serve as a vehicle to limit case capacity. So yes, you could use this bullet in your 44 for mid range loads. Just deep seat it and be careful. Lots of guys are on a reloading budget and for them, the one mold they buy needs to fit as many applications as they might need. If any of you have a question to ask, don't hesitate. There are many of us here who would be glad to help you. Do some searching and reading. We are here if you need us.
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paulg
.375 Atomic
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Post by paulg on Oct 3, 2016 11:15:19 GMT -5
Thank you Fermin. I never looked at it from the angle of economics. Of course your experience sees that right off the bat. If you didn't want to deep seat the bullet could the case be trimmed to make it work? My particular .44's are a Smith model 29 and the new 69. I won't be able to do the measurements until later this evening or another member might get to it sooner than I can.
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Post by 2 Dogs on Oct 3, 2016 11:23:39 GMT -5
Thank you Fermin. I never looked at it from the angle of economics. Of course your experience sees that right off the bat. If you didn't want to deep seat the bullet could the case be trimmed to make it work? My particular .44's are a Smith model 29 and the new 69. I won't be able to do the measurements until later this evening or another member might get to it sooner than I can. You sure could trim them a bit, or even get yourself some 44 special brass and find out why so many of us RAVE about that caliber. I haven't tried that myself so DO NOT trim 1000 44 mag. cases just to find out that they are thicker at that point than will allow the bullet to seat and chamber. Remember, your cylinder IS YOUR CASE GAUGE. Try a few and let us know how it works.
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Post by boolitdesigner on Oct 3, 2016 13:11:45 GMT -5
paulg- You will see some very unusual bullets that I design and post for myself and others. No sooner than I've put one up, someone will ask the question you have. Fermin gave you a good example of how to use something can be used for another purpose. We get inventive on these things and usually want more than what's offered. Anytime you have a question, go ahead and post it.
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paulg
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Post by paulg on Oct 3, 2016 16:07:49 GMT -5
Ahhh, gotcha Fermin. See y'all think of this stuff. Would've never thought of the case being too thick after the bullet is seated. The reason I'm asking about using magnum brass is if it works I could fill the entire chamber with bullet and brass instead of having a shorter round in the longer cylinder. I guess I'm running these ideas through my head because for some reason I really like the design and perceived functionality of this bullet. Although I haven't the first idea what makes a good bullet and mold. This will certainly be a great learning experience. The more you talk about it the more it appeals to me. I don't have the first item needed for casting and it will take me some time to pick up everything. I figure by the time y'all get your design and details nailed down and the completed mold is available I should have most all I need. So go ahead and count me in on the group buy. I'll call this casting and loading narcissism at it's best. I guess I'll get the folks asking what the hell would you do that for when perfectly capable bullets are available for loading in magnum cases? Or why don't you buy a .44 special? I have a .44 special. An older Bulldog. My answer to the first question is I don't know. This bullet and the idea behind it just appeals to me and I can use them in my Bulldog and Smith's. I guess.
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lws
.30 Stingray
Spokane Valley, Washington
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Post by lws on Oct 4, 2016 8:42:16 GMT -5
Hello Guys ;I'm new here first post . This is a interesting bullet , I can't see why it would not work with a 44 magnum as well as the 44 special . I have both and use the same bullets in each . RCBS 250K that is 265 gr. when cast with my mix. Been shooting handgun over 50 yrs. started with a old Colt in 44-40 . First gun I reloaded for .
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Post by BigBore44 on Oct 4, 2016 9:17:48 GMT -5
Paulg IMHO, NEVER be afraid to ask a question, Especially about handloading! We were all new at one time And I don't think Any of us will Ever know it all. I'm still new to it after a few years and I Know I'm far from knowing a thimble full. Besides the folks on here are Awesome and, full of knowledge they graciously give freely and respectfully to us newcomers. We must stay safe in this hobby/sport and questions might just keep us from a Big Goof Up. Ask away buddy..... Fermin or Boolitdesigner, Will this one be available as a PB/Plain base? Looks like a dandy for the Special SPL. Thanks Ray
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