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Post by mtnbkr on Nov 10, 2012 19:37:21 GMT -5
I've been looking at the Marlin 1895GBL. It's the same barrel length as the guide gun, but has a longer magazine and a laminated pistol grip stock.
Chris
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Post by warhawk on Nov 10, 2012 22:26:13 GMT -5
I've been looking at the Marlin 1895GBL. It's the same barrel length as the guide gun, but has a longer magazine and a laminated pistol grip stock. Chris Just look it over very carefully before you buy. Remington has been putting out some absolute garbage since they took over Marlin. But once in while they do let a good one get out. |
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Post by mtnbkr on Nov 11, 2012 7:22:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I've been reading that as well.
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Post by flyfisher66048 on Nov 11, 2012 16:06:23 GMT -5
If you are shooting cast bullets, more velocity stops gaining you anything after a point, you need to go up in caliber. My preference is for the Encore. The options are endless. My preferences in the Encore are for rimmed cartridges. My 16.3" 45-70 is about all you want with heavy loads. (405's @2k fps)   One of the 20" katahdin barrels in 500 S&W could be a very nice and versatile option. That is a super nice "little big rifle". I don't think I would like the recoil of the 45-70 in such a small package, but one like that in 30-30 would be very interesting to me. In the interest of creating the most compact rifle without going to a SBR, I did some looking, and choate makes a folding stock for the encore (http://www.midwayusa.com/product/717205/choate-side-folding-buttstock-thompson-center-encore-steel-and-synthetic-black). With the folding stock, what length barrel would be required to stay over the NFA minimum? Whatever the length, I think it would make a very nice tree stand rifle. |
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Post by humphrey on Nov 11, 2012 22:30:42 GMT -5
Folding stock is a non issue. As the firearm is intended to be used with the stock unfolded. Minimal barrel is 16" for a rifle, 26" over all with stock unfolded.
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Post by mtnbkr on Nov 12, 2012 10:01:14 GMT -5
It occurred to me that if I go Encore, I can get small bore barrels for my girls if they want to shoot a rifle later on. I think Encore is the right choice.
Now, caliber. 44mag, 45-70, or 500 S&W? I reload (only 44mag from this list), so factory ammo price isn't a concern. I'm leaning towards 45-70 or 500 for the bigger bullet, but sticking with 44mag means lower startup costs.
Chris
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Post by flyfisher66048 on Nov 12, 2012 10:02:40 GMT -5
That is good news thanks
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Post by Aggie01 on Nov 12, 2012 18:03:35 GMT -5
I already have a packable 44 magnum. It's Ruger Bisley.
If I'm also packing a rifle, it had better be able to outperform my handgun.
I believe you can get more velocity with better B/C (therefore trajectory) out of the 45-70, but you give up frontal area.
Folks around here don't worry much about velocity in a iron sighted handgun, but to me, faster is better in a scoped rifle.
I have not had chance to work with my "other" 45-70 barrel yet, which I had rechambered to 45-100. I expect to be able to load it hot enough I don't want to shoot it.
I'm not a fan of thumbhole or the folding stocks in the Encores.
I don't bring the hammer back till I'm on target, and I have to break my grip to bring the hammer back with either of those two stocks.
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Post by temmi on Nov 13, 2012 17:32:55 GMT -5
I shoot a 450M in a XLR and even with full house 400g ammo it is not that bad
That said
Maybe a Rossi 92 in 45 Colt or 454C
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Post by joej on Nov 13, 2012 18:05:39 GMT -5
I shoot a 450M in a XLR and even with full house 400g ammo it is not that bad Defination of bad is  ? For me, that 450M with 350's, 405's, 420's and 550's at full tilt are no joy and I shot a 378 Weatherby for 30 years with full-on loads and I liked that beast about as much as the 450M off the bench. I'm probably turning into a puss in my ole age but that 450M gets my attention real quick off the bench. |
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Post by bud on Nov 15, 2012 9:44:22 GMT -5
You currently own a caliber 'n rifle that will put down everything in the lower 48 and most of what's in Alaska too. That 6.5x55 is the bees knees for everything from groundhogs to moose. What I think I'd do with that dough is get me a fun gun...something you've always wanted but didn't buy because it didn't fit with your hunting scenario. Get something YOU want, whether that be a couple 22's in auto and revolver, a Bisley in 357/41/44/45, or a slick SAA USFA or Uberti. Since you already load for 44m, a slick lil 44spl would be something you'll be kickin yerself for not getting years ago.
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Post by Markbo on Nov 18, 2012 13:30:31 GMT -5
You could always go AR. .458 SOCOM is pretty easy to load for and is a lot of fun!
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Post by rWt on Nov 18, 2012 18:50:15 GMT -5
Perhaps a double rifle in 405 Winchester for those ranges.
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Post by dmize on Nov 18, 2012 19:46:44 GMT -5
If you have a Guide Gun and reload,the 'ol 45-70 can become a really hatefull bxxxh too.
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Post by bud on Nov 19, 2012 9:51:11 GMT -5
To cover ALL the bases and not waste your money and time, just pick up a Ruger #1 in 450/400 Nitro Express. Nuff said.....
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? For me, that 450M with 350's, 405's, 420's and 550's at full tilt are no joy and I shot a 378 Weatherby for 30 years with full-on loads and I liked that beast about as much as the 450M off the bench. 
