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Post by Lee Martin on Oct 24, 2012 7:42:08 GMT -5
I use RCBS dies, labeled for 500 S&W/500 special. Use a Redding 500 S&W crimp die to crimp. This die was about 1/4 inch to long so had my smith cut it down on the lathe. I have the same 500 S&W/500 Special RCBS carbide dies. Haven't tried them on my JRH yet because I'm waiting on the brass. I'm curious though.....why the Redding crimp die? Doesn't RCBS have roll built into the seater? The old set I've been using for my 500 Mags does. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time" |
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Post by joej on Oct 24, 2012 11:20:26 GMT -5
I have both the Hornady & Redding dies for the 500 SW and they both work fine for the 500JRH.
I use a progressive, so I just change out the seating and resizer die from one to the other when I reload. If I had to do it over again, I just would have just purchased two Redding die sets.
As for the expander die, I use the redding, as I find the Hornady expands the case body a tad. The Hornady expander die stem is pressed in, so you get what you get. The Redding expander stem can be removed and “polished” down, so it doesn’t come in contact with the case body and will only give a slight flare to the case mouth. (you have to adjust it from the SW to the JRH) I feel I get better case tension this way and you will see the “snake swallowing a rat look” to it.
I also seat and crimp in 2 operations, as I have a 5 station progressive. I use the Redding Profile Crimp die (also adjust a tad from SW to JRH) and have never been disappointed, as it’s held every bullet in place under some pretty heavy recoil at times. You can also seat and crimp in one operation, if you so choose.
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Post by Thunderjet on Oct 24, 2012 11:36:13 GMT -5
I use RCBS dies, labeled for 500 S&W/500 special. Use a Redding 500 S&W crimp die to crimp. This die was about 1/4 inch to long so had my smith cut it down on the lathe. I have the same 500 S&W/500 Special RCBS carbide dies. Haven't tried them on my JRH yet because I'm waiting on the brass. I'm curious though.....why the Redding crimp die? Doesn't RCBS have roll built into the seater? The old set I've been using for my 500 Mags does. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time" I always try to crimp in a separate step as it helps keep the bullets from walking out of the case due to recoil. I admit I have not used the factory seating/crimping die to see if it works. Always easier to just buy the extra die so I dont have to change anything. Experience taught me to crimp in a separate step with these heavy hitters. |
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Post by embalmer883 on Oct 24, 2012 18:38:53 GMT -5
Here's my question, I now have a FA 454. It is a fixed sight 4 5/8" barrel. Due to a motor cycle wreck I'm limited to heavy colt loads, I load them in 454 brass. We're talking 1100fps loads. Would I be able to load the JRH down to about the same recoil level and still have a useful round?
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Post by joej on Oct 24, 2012 18:50:14 GMT -5
Sure you could but a 300 grain 0.452 bullet at 1,100fps is big medicine for anything you might encounter in the lower 48. If there's a want, then you'll find a need and people around here will help you along the way to keep that wallet on the thin side, as no one wants to see a guy have back problems from sitting on a fat wallet.  |
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Post by subsonic on Oct 24, 2012 19:49:58 GMT -5
Here's my question, I now have a FA 454. It is a fixed sight 4 5/8" barrel. Due to a motor cycle wreck I'm limited to heavy colt loads, I load them in 454 brass. We're talking 1100fps loads. Would I be able to load the JRH down to about the same recoil level and still have a useful round? If you get ahold of one of the long barreled "mistakes" that seem plentiful, I think you can find a load you will like. The shorter barrels can really whip even more and are significantly lighter due to the heavy barrel profile on BFRs. You can probably find a load that works with a 400gr at about 950 that should "feel" about the same as a heavy .45 colt in a heavy BFR. |
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Post by hammerdown77 on Oct 24, 2012 20:52:17 GMT -5
A 440 grain bullet over 10 grains of HP38 felt an awful lot like a 45 Colt to me in my 7.5" barreled BFR...
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Post by whitworth on Oct 25, 2012 8:09:07 GMT -5
Here's my question, I now have a FA 454. It is a fixed sight 4 5/8" barrel. Due to a motor cycle wreck I'm limited to heavy colt loads, I load them in 454 brass. We're talking 1100fps loads. Would I be able to load the JRH down to about the same recoil level and still have a useful round? 10 grains of 231 behind a 440 is very pleasant to shoot and very effective on game. |
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Post by Lee Martin on Oct 25, 2012 8:21:52 GMT -5
What?  ?? Whit, you shot a reduced load using W231? Come to think of it the last time we were out you liked my 41 Mag-Green Dot combination. Hmmmm..... -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time" |
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Post by whitworth on Oct 25, 2012 8:30:06 GMT -5
What? ?? Whit, you shot a reduced load using W231? Come to think of it the last time we were out you liked my 41 Mag-Green Dot combination. Hmmmm..... -Lee www.singleactions.com"Building carpal tunnel one round at a time" The man asked for a reduced load and that one comes from Jack Huntington (I shot it and it is really mild). Me? Full throttle with 296! ;D ;D |
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Post by embalmer883 on Oct 25, 2012 9:57:04 GMT -5
What I'm after is a load that is more of a push than the whip of the 454.
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Post by whitworth on Oct 25, 2012 10:21:55 GMT -5
What I'm after is a load that is more of a push than the whip of the 454. That 231 load will get you there. |
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Post by embalmer883 on Oct 25, 2012 11:49:41 GMT -5
I've heard the FA83's cylinder is a little short. Would I have any problems with a 440gr in it?
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Post by whitworth on Oct 25, 2012 13:25:09 GMT -5
I've heard the FA83's cylinder is a little short. Would I have any problems with a 440gr in it? Depends on the bullet nose length. We haven't seen any 440s that won't fit the short FA cylinder, but the fear is that a crimp jump could tie up the gun -- at low speeds this is not an issue (like the 231 load I listed). |
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Post by embalmer883 on Oct 25, 2012 13:37:34 GMT -5
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?? Whit, you shot a reduced load using W231?