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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 23, 2011 16:36:49 GMT -5
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Post by bigbores on Jul 23, 2011 18:02:47 GMT -5
Ax isn't kidding, I have some 440GRs that when they are loaded in my JRH are only .010" shorter than the 83s cylinder, I started trimming my brass back an extra .030" because of this, I'm planning on having a custom mold made up with a short nose for this gun.
Here's some other facts Ive found about these rounds.
the 500JRH has less casecapacity even though its longer than the WE.
Per Ken O'Neill's measurements
the 500WE Case Capacity is 56.7grs
the 500JRH Case Capacity is 53.2grs even though its .030" longer.
weighing the cases tells the story
the 500WE weighs 150.8grs
the 500JRH weighs 179.3grs
The brass must be thicker in the base of the JRH reducing Case cap a small amount.
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 23, 2011 18:39:32 GMT -5
If I'd shot these things enough to have a few miles on some brass I'd cut one each down the midde for show and tell.. Maybe next year..
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Post by jwp475 on Jul 23, 2011 19:22:49 GMT -5
Case capacity differences is meaningless as far as balisticaly speaking. I much prefer the stronger case
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 23, 2011 20:59:32 GMT -5
IMHO the strength difference in a 500JRH and 500WE case in a FA is moot...
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Post by bigbores on Jul 23, 2011 21:22:21 GMT -5
Case capacity differences is meaningless as far as balisticaly speaking. I much prefer the stronger case I prefer you having a stronger case.  As stated above both case strength and case capacity are moot, both have identical ballistics. |
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Post by kaytod on Jul 23, 2011 21:36:45 GMT -5
My preference is I'll take 120,00 tensile steel over 70,000 tensile brass anyday. The case itself is the "gasket".
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Jul 24, 2011 5:48:32 GMT -5
Stan,
Are there any apparent modifications to the "star" on your JRH cylinder?
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 24, 2011 8:52:12 GMT -5
Just picked it up at 930 last night. Not expecting any difference. The JRH rim looks to be the same diameter as the WE belt. I'll look and post pics if I see any difference.
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Post by jwp475 on Jul 24, 2011 8:53:58 GMT -5
My preference is I'll take 120,00 tensile steel over 70,000 tensile brass anyday. The case itself is the "gasket". The case acts much like a gasket if the gasket fails the presuure leaks out. Simple as that. |
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 24, 2011 12:04:43 GMT -5
Please don't turn this into another argument thread. There is no right or wrong. Pick your poison and spend your money. Write about what yours will and will not do. My personal choice is FAs in both along with 50AEs.  |
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Post by jwp475 on Jul 24, 2011 12:31:50 GMT -5
I have a 5 1/2" FA 83 in 500 JRH it was the "prototype" revolver in 500 JRH, the very first ever built in this caliber. I also have a 500 JRH in a 5" barreled BFR, that Grizzly ammo used to develope thier factory loads in 500 JRH
I like the 500 JRH on game
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 24, 2011 13:47:32 GMT -5
I was pleased that brass was so easy to get.. Some of the specialty stuff can be hard to find. Current plan is to use my 500 S&W and 500WE dies to get something loaded.
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Post by jwp475 on Jul 24, 2011 14:16:21 GMT -5
Sounds like a plan
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Post by AxeHandle on Jul 24, 2011 16:58:22 GMT -5
Here is a shot of the 500JRH cylinder..  |
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