new 44spl blackhawk problem

[dale53]

I have bought nearly all of my guns (Colt, S&W, and Rugers) by ordering from my local "non-stocking" dealer. I have to take "what I get". In many, many years of doing this, and many, many guns (both long and short guns) I have almost never got a bad gun. I have tuned nearly all of them (including reaming the cylinder throats) and certainly done LOTS of trigger jobs but never had a "basic problem). No doubt, I have been lucky.

Even today, I am reasonably confident that I will get a "good one". The alternative is to pay MUCH more for each gun and over the years has amounted to thousands of dollars. So, "I spends my money and takes my chances." I could have only one gun for all of my life, I would probably insist on inspecting it. Otherwise, I don't think so.

Just a thought or two...

Dale53

[rep1954]

dale53, I agree the savings of buying online are great and it seems like I do it about 6 times a year and have had satisfactory luck myself. I will order a gun and have it sent to a FFL holder and pay him a transfer fee as I'm sure is what you do. What I am saying is when you buy from a dealer at a store or a gun show or for that mater a personal face to face inspect the gun. The seller is there,you are there, the gun is there and so is the money. In this case the gun was bought from a dealer and even if the dealer ordered it for you and if it is not right you dont have to accept it.

[gunsbrad]

rep1954

I live in a fairly rural area. There are no large stocking dealers. The few stocking dealers around charge big money. My non stocking dealer is a gunsmith, but he will order anything anyone wants at a truly modest markup. The catch is you pay up front, then he orders it. I had never seen one of these, except on the net, and had been hoarding that money for 2yrs waiting on availability. By the time it was in my hands the money was already spent. It was pre-accepted.

This system has worked well for me over the years and I have saved a lot of money over the years. I agree inspection is best, but in my case it is usually not possible or practicable. I accept the chance of this happening, and actually had to send a new gun back to Marlin for a new barrel about 3 yrs ago. This happens from time to time. It is aggravating, but as Dale said"I spends my money and takes my chances."

Brad Hurt

[wadepatton]

hey, i was just reading on another gunnutforum about ruger repair service, and i gathered one really important rule. that is: if a dude answers the phone (when you get to a live person), simply hang up. if a gal answers the phone, then tell her what's up and she'll offer a r/a pick up tag and everything.

the dude needs to be fired yesterday.

and to be clear, i've owned many, never had to send one back. i did call remington once (on a chamber issue)--i think that dude was working there then.

howdy. i'm new here. and hth with your repair order. new bbl is the ticket, no matter who screws it in.

i'm still "fitting" my "kit gun" 44 flattop stainless. trigger was 4# out of box but mile long. (has been much improved, but i'm going back in.) throats appear to be good, bbl is being fire-lapped and checked this week. grips will be here tomorrow. pics when i make a nice target.

[Hobie]

The stainless .44 Spec flattops don't seem to be as well fitted as the blue. I had them side by side in the shop and you could readily see the difference.

[gunsbrad]

Well,

I got around to correcting the barrel on that blackhawk 44spl. I pulled the barrel and hand lapped out .002" of constriction, which took a while. The forcing cone was so off center I ended up cutting the sholder back 3 full threads so that the off center portion would not throw off my throat reamer. I set b/c gap to .004 and recut cone. The front sight also is a little bit closer to plumb now. Then I had to shorten the ejr housing to fit. Boy this is a lot of work for a brand new gun.

I did some preliminary shooting and accuracy seems to have improved. It is hot here now and I didn't want to shoot no more in the sun. I am heading to a shooting match in the morning and won't be able to shoot this thing any more till next week.

I know you all probably think I am crazy for doing all this, but at least it is done and I know what the deal is.

Have a good weekend.

Brad Hurt

[rep1954]

Actually it sounds like a fun time and things got taken care of that might not have been by sending it off to Ruger. When you get more shooting time in fill us in.

[gunsbrad]

Well I got back from a 3 day BPCR match in Michigan. Boy Michigan is a long way from Virginia.

Here is the old girl loaded with 429421 keith, 7.5gr Unique, fed lp, and shooting from sitting position between knees, at 25 yds. I think she wants to shoot. I am still getting some lead, but it seems to get better the more I shoot it so I am not worried yet.

I may have to open up the rear sight a bit as there doesn't seem to be a lot of wiggle room to allow daylight on either side of the front blade. I also had to fix the rear sight as it would not bottom in the slot, and I could not get poi down enough at 25. I think I have that fixed but will have to shoot it some more to see.

Overall I am pleased with my new gun. I am not pleased that it took so much work to get it here. I love ruger products and have several that needed no work. I feel certain ruger would have corrected the problem, but I wish it would have been caught before leaving the factory. Oh, well. I am happy now.

Now where did I put that extra Bisley hammer?

Brad Hurt

[Lee Martin]

Nice shooting. In fact, you're hard pressed to do much better than that from a factory Ruger. Short of the Bisley hammer swap, I wouldn't change a thing.

-Lee
www.singleactions.com

[Sarge]

Jul 1, 2010 9:49:36 GMT -5 Lee Martin said:

If you can do it yourself, I'd recut it to 11 degrees (centered of course).

-Lee
www.singleactions.com

I'll second that big time. If you really like that gun, do it or have it done right the first time. My experience, with sending revolvers back to Ruger, is that from here on I'll just fix it myself.

[avidreader]

I wish I had the "know how" to accomplish the feat you tackled, that some serious "fixin" you put into that Ruger.

[Mountaineer]

I am truly impressed, Brad. The extent you went to correct the problem was undoubtedly more than Ruger would have done for you, had you returned it (which, admittedly, I would have). Congratulations.

[J Miller]

The only handgun I've purchased sight unseen over the internet came to me with a tilted and twisted front sight. Eventually I will have that corrected. But it's a defect that would have caused me to reject the gun had I been able to visually inspect it.
I've decided that the frustration of getting a defect like that far outweighs the savings of getting the guns over the net. I've decided that I will not buy a gun I cannot look at first.

JMHO from my life experiences.

Joe

[rodfac]

Lee...I may not understand your answer....not good if the forcing cone is off center....

The forcing cone is concentric to the barrel threads...and if the barrel is over or under turned into the frame...would not the forcing cone still be concentric?

Granted the sight will be still canted one way or the other...but the forcing cone should still be aligned...Right?

Am I wrapped around the axle on this?

Best regards Rod

[gunsbrad]

rodfac,

this forcing cone was nowhere near center. It was the worst I ever saw, and I've seen a few. It has been corrected and is now on center, and 11 degree.

Hope I am not stepping on any toes.

Brad Hurt