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Post by aciera on Jun 19, 2010 8:20:19 GMT -5
Update: What I am thinking of doing from the PMs and emails I am getting. 3 types are: New Model, Old Model, and FA(you know who is guilty) IF I CAN!!!! Talked to some interested people. Some things came out. I don't want this to be what the Swiss Army Knife has evolved into. It can do many things and nothing very well. I will get one of the grip frame molds made, I think the #5, cast for one type of pistol, rework mold, recast for another, rework, and then maybe sell it........... What is learned there will keep the variables lower in the next one. Do I limit the number I can cast before rework? Yes. More later Thoughts?
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Post by kings6 on Jun 19, 2010 9:18:28 GMT -5
Sign me up for a Ti bisley frame! ;D
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Post by aciera on Jun 19, 2010 10:00:21 GMT -5
Sign me up for a Ti bisley frame! ;D I am going to try fo Ti........ I have to go outside of Ca for the Al I'm looking at. Some of the problems of the aftermarket grips may be material. The Al I am looking to use is 60% stronger than T356, which is a very good material, for some things, car wheels and such. Penny wise and Pound foolish comes into play here. Material is a very small part of the final cost, all things considered. Its like building a great custom Pre 64 with Hart barrel and all, and buying cheap bullets that MAY shoot to save money. A lot of ideas have been offered. I like this site because it is small with a wealth of knowledge, and people are polite and funny. If you think some one is wrong, its okay to call him on it, just be polite. Some of my best friends I've met over a difference of opinion. It was the point that was argued, not the person. He crosses the line, all bets are off. Rant over. Questions? P.S. I am only posting here about this, due to the "IDIOT PERCENTAGE"
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Post by blacktailslayer on Jun 19, 2010 13:20:07 GMT -5
Why don't you make the tool with removable/interchangable inserts for sections of the frames that are different from each other. That way you can make any of the frames you want when you want - no limited runs. You will basically have to cut, plug and re-cut cavity anyway so do it up-front and have a versitile tool.
The difference between a #5 and a Bisley is the lower end so the interface with the cylinder frame are the same.
Just my 2 cents
Don D
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Post by aciera on Jun 19, 2010 17:08:32 GMT -5
Why don't you make the tool with removable/interchangable inserts for sections of the frames that are different from each other. That way you can make any of the frames you want when you want - no limited runs. You will basically have to cut, plug and re-cut cavity anyway so do it up-front and have a versitile tool. The difference between a #5 and a Bisley is the lower end so the interface with the cylinder frame are the same. Just my 2 cents Don D Don; Thank you.(insert Homer Simson"DOOH" here) I will ask the mold man Monday.I got the estimate for one type of grip frame. I should not be left to my own devices at times. I just kept thinking ..................or not thinking. I get into the production state of mind. Making things that when you change the mold you do it for final production. And then run it and run it. See why I'm here. I was thinking more along the lines of the mating to the frame with the mold changes. New Model vs Old Model. Some people offer gripframes that can fit both. But at what cost in machining?? Maybe just a little, don't know. I started this for stainless guns. And that was the track I got on. Thanks for the derail. I needed it. Next
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Post by CraigC on Jun 21, 2010 10:29:34 GMT -5
I think that most folks would be too apprehensive to make the leap. For most have never even handled a #5, let alone shot one. Myself included. I'm just not willing to fork out several hundred dollars for a grip frame, gunsmith fitting and custom grips all before the first shot is fired, on faith alone.
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Post by aciera on Jun 21, 2010 10:35:25 GMT -5
I think that most folks would be too apprehensive to make the leap. For most have never even handled a #5, let alone shot one. Myself included. I'm just not willing to fork out several hundred dollars for a grip frame, gunsmith fitting and custom grips all before the first shot is fired, on faith alone. "Leap of Faith" is what got you in bed with a woman the first time. You hadn't done it before..................:-) We shall see.
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Post by sugarriver on Jun 21, 2010 11:22:59 GMT -5
I think that most folks would be too apprehensive to make the leap. For most have never even handled a #5, let alone shot one. Myself included. I'm just not willing to fork out several hundred dollars for a grip frame, gunsmith fitting and custom grips all before the first shot is fired, on faith alone. "Leap of Faith" is what got you in bed with a woman the first time. You hadn't done it before..................:-) We shall see. True, but that only cost dinner. Pete
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Post by aciera on Jun 21, 2010 11:36:31 GMT -5
"Leap of Faith" is what got you in bed with a woman the first time. You hadn't done it before..................:-) We shall see. True, but that only cost dinner. Pete As long as you don't get married and divorced....................
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Post by aciera on Jun 22, 2010 8:17:20 GMT -5
The plot thickens:
The mold guy was really helpful. I told him of some Bisleys in Al and how they broke. He smiled and told me"Wrong alloy to begin with, I can easily have them cast out of Al alloy stronger than the steel they build some railroad trucks out of.".
It may be two types of casting/mold for different materials.
If casting a SS #5, he said I should just cast some from steel so they could be blued and look "Right". A gun junckie that is NOT into stainless in single actions.
One of the bigger people in this project would like ....drum roll please............Scandium, Titamium being second choise.
And my mom thinks Sterling Silver would look nice!!!!!!!!
The mold guy just shrugged and told me the right alloy for silver and no problem............
Thank you for your input.
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Post by CraigC on Jun 22, 2010 10:51:44 GMT -5
True, but that only cost dinner. ....and I needed to eat anyway....and it didn't take six months. Might be a good idea to have a finished grip frame with grips on it that you can send out as a loaner just for folks to get a feel for it.
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Post by aciera on Jun 22, 2010 11:48:12 GMT -5
True, but that only cost dinner. ....and I needed to eat anyway....and it didn't take six months. Might be a good idea to have a finished grip frame with grips on it that you can send out as a loaner just for folks to get a feel for it. Used to be a shoot at a Pheasant Farm in So Ca every year. Rahagues or something. All the manufacturers were there, and you shot for the price of ammo. High dollar Brownings at clay birds. I emptied a Desert Eagle in 50AE. They said I was the first one to have more than 1 round in the magazine. Point is, you got to shoot it first. You be right about not knowing. Maybe I should have a test mule to send to smiths that fit them? You may be very right.
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Post by ginco on Jun 26, 2010 10:04:49 GMT -5
I am a little late getting in but I would be interested in 2 Bisley grip frames in any of the materials listed.
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Post by aciera on Jun 26, 2010 13:09:50 GMT -5
Update;
How many Colt SA people out there?
I'm thinking wanting No. 5 here.
Thanks.
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Post by dougader on Jun 26, 2010 16:51:18 GMT -5
I'd love to feel the #5 grip frame and see if I like it as much as the Ruger made Bisley...
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