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Post by boolitdesigner on Jul 19, 2024 14:57:53 GMT -5
I’ve found this in blue finish, basically new worked over by someone that knew what he was doing. Not in hand yet, but what’s your thoughts.
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Post by 45MAN on Jul 19, 2024 15:30:54 GMT -5
THE CHAMBER IS NOT AS TIGHT AS A FA 454 CHAMBER. I HAVE HAD SOME AMMO (IIRC, RELOADS, NOT FACTORY AMMO) THAT WHEN SHOT IN MY ROSSI 454, THEN RESIZED, WOULD NOT CHAMBER IN A FA CYLINDER SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO NOT TRY TO HOT ROD YOUR RELOADS FOR USE IN THE ROSSI. SOME COR-BON 300gr AMMO, RATED AT 1,625fps IN A REVOLVER, CLOCKED RIGHT AT 2,000fps IN MY 20" ROSSI AND THE RESIZED BRASS FITS IN A FA CHAMBER. IF YOU CAN'T GET BY WITH 2,000fps WITH A 300gr BULLET ITS TIME TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER GUN.
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Post by ldmay375 on Jul 19, 2024 16:21:55 GMT -5
I have one of the newer generation 20" stainless type. Not that many rounds through it. It seems to cycle most anything. Including the 45 Colts that I have put through it. The buckhorn sight does not work well for my eye. I am still deciding on what I will replace those with. My son has one and has been using the 454 Buffalo Bore 325 grain hardcast. He likes it, and the buckhorn works for him.
Handy little rifles with a bit of horsepower.
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Post by boolitdesigner on Jul 19, 2024 16:49:49 GMT -5
IF YOU CAN'T GET BY WITH 2,000fps WITH A 300gr BULLET ITS TIME TO LOOK FOR ANOTHER GUN.
I’ll be quite happy with less than that with less bullet weight. It will be for some heavy Illinois deer and they will go right down with no problems. BTDT many times already with less.
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Post by lar4570 on Jul 20, 2024 8:02:29 GMT -5
The 454 version is supposed to have a faster twist rate than the 45 colt. I bought the 24" octagon 45 colt because I thought it looked sexy. It will stabilize 275's, but I'd like the option of going with 350's if I wanted to. The 454 also comes with a rubber butt pad vs the 45Colt and it's steel crescent butt plate. I have a blued 480 also. I think they are great guns.
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Post by jgt on Jul 20, 2024 9:53:54 GMT -5
My thought is to take my hat off to you. Anyone that can shoot a Rossi 92 in 454 and enjoy it has my sympathy and admiration.
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Post by boatswainsmate on Jul 20, 2024 12:59:10 GMT -5
I have one of the older stainless models with the threaded load tube. I haven't shot it much but it loves the Lyman 454629 going full tilt.
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Post by boolitdesigner on Jul 20, 2024 16:09:59 GMT -5
My thought is to take my hat off to you. Anyone that can shoot a Rossi 92 in 454 and enjoy it has my sympathy and admiration. [br What I have and shoot outranks this as a medium load rifle. My other varmint rifle in this caliber runs the 300 gr. Hollow point Ruger only cast bullet at 2,200 fps and is relatively easy to shoot. I look at the 454 in this rifle as a 45 Colt magnum. I’m quite familiar with heavy rifles.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Jul 20, 2024 17:48:17 GMT -5
I see it as a handy 45-70 that holds more rounds, as Rey said, a 300gr. bullet going 2000fps beats my Marlin 45-70 and it carries more rounds. The Marlin is easier to run an optic on. 250’s or 280’s at the same speed should handle any deer in the US.
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Post by ldmay375 on Jul 21, 2024 12:36:28 GMT -5
I am in agreement with the 2 above posts. I view mine as a light 45-70, in respect to rifle and its loads. I really hope mine shoots the 360 grain hard cast and 300 grain coppers decently. I have to sort out what sights that I am going with.
Considering the big game taken with revolvers using today's common factory loads, with proper bullets at less than maximum psi, I have a fairly high confidence level in the carbines in 454 Casull. Not shabby for a less than 6 pound empty, easy carrying little rifle. I believe they state 9 rounds in the tube for the 20" R92. That is plenty for me. But, I have put 10 in without issue, just to see.
I was somewhat skeptical of the 454 in a 1892 type. Though finally took the gamble after handling one of the new Rossi's. Honestly, I had been skeptical of Rossi as a whole. I now have 4 of their stainless carbines. The 454 was the first.
I just read a column article by Brian Pearce in Rifle Magazine. He has a Puma. Brian said he has more than 10,000 rounds through his rifle. He stated the only real mechanical issue was the front dovetail sight loosening up at 5,000 rounds. That was an easy fix. At 10,000 or a little over, headspace was checked and still within spec. I think that is a pretty good testament to durability.
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Post by boolitdesigner on Jul 21, 2024 18:56:00 GMT -5
. I have to sort out what sights that I am going with. I’ve reviewed quite a few you tube articles on this rifle. None of the sights are great… EXCEPT the one I saw on my coming rifle. It replaces the safety on the top rear of the bolt. It is a large aperture akin to a ghost ring (unknown if it’s adjustable right now). The front fiber optic front was half busted off and is being replaced with a brass blade). I expect it to be fast and precise in duskier conditions.
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Post by dmize on Jul 21, 2024 21:15:37 GMT -5
I have a 45 Colt and 357. With Ruger loads they both swell brass. The 357 worse than the 45. In talked with a friend that has a 454 and he stated he had no such problems with it
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Post by boolitdesigner on Jul 25, 2024 15:59:35 GMT -5
I have the rifle in hand. It’s quite a production. The rear barrel sight was taken off and a blank was put in its place. The safety on the back top of the bolt was replaced with a large ghost ring aperture that is spectacular. It has a xs in a circle stamped on it, is screwed to the receiver walls on each side and is adjustable for wind age and elevation. All in all a really first class receiver sight for this trim powerful rifle. The front sight was replaced with a light bar type of sight that has only the front bar on it. It’s useable, but I don’t care for this type of sight. More to come after it gets a new front sight and testing.
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Post by bigbore5 on Jul 27, 2024 1:48:47 GMT -5
Wish they would bring back the 480. Or better yet make it a 475.
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Post by ldmay375 on Jul 27, 2024 11:42:00 GMT -5
I have not noticed obvious swelling of the brass from firing two of the 454's. The 357 that I have does swell the brass on approximately the bottom 1/3. A couple of days ago, I finally got around to shooting the 357.
Edit: visually you can definitely see the differences in concentricity of chambers between these two 454's and this particular 357.
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