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Post by fn1889m on Apr 29, 2024 11:42:22 GMT -5
I have been loading .45LC with 8.0 and 8.5 gn of Unique. But I would like to develop a load which is one step up, using ~255 to 260 gn SWC in a large frame Vaquero and Winchester 92 reproduction. I decided not to just increase the amount of Unique, but to look at other powders. This would be a large game load. This does not have to be an equivalent to .44 Mag but something a little over 1,000 fps, clean burning. I have 110, but rarely load magnum anything. To date I have only used Unique in .45LC at 8.5 gn max. Are there any iconic loads for this purpose that are as accepted as 8.5 gn of Unique has become? And I do want a load that works in both the revolver and rifle - so the revolver defines the upper limit. I would appreciate any advice based on personal experience - though I will use manuals as my ultimate reference.
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Post by bearskinner on Apr 29, 2024 11:52:27 GMT -5
H110 needs to be up loaded not down loaded. A nice plinking, light hunting load if you have 2400, is 17.0 grains in .44 mag or .45 Colt with 240-265 grain bullets. Safe in S&W’s but enough to get over 1000fps. I usually go warmer, but you wanted a light to medium go to load. I think John’s 45 Colt load was 13.5 of HS-6, for a comfortable mountain gun load.
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Post by markh66 on Apr 29, 2024 11:53:16 GMT -5
I've had good luck using 13.0 gr HS-6 or 10 gr Power Pistol using that weight range of bullets in my 45 Colt. I don't have any velocity info but those are definitely a tick above 8.5 gr Unique.
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Post by markh66 on Apr 29, 2024 11:59:23 GMT -5
13.0 gr HS-6 or 10 gr Power Pistol Should clarify, I don't have any experience hunting out west or really big game. I hunt whitetail here in NC and it's woods distances in the neighborhood of 20 to 40 yards. Under those circumstances the moderate loads I use is sufficient.
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Post by 45MAN on Apr 29, 2024 13:21:21 GMT -5
fn1899m: MY 45 COLT "S&W LOAD" MAY BE SOME GUIDANCE FOR YOU: NICKELED STARLINE CASES, WLP PRIMERS, ACME 250gr PC'ed RNFP AND 10.5grs OF UNIQUE, GIVES ME MID 1,000's IN MY 4" AND 5" SMITHS, 1,127fps IN A CUSTOM 4" REDHAWK, AND ALSO OVER 1,100fps IN AN 8 3/8ths" SMITH AND A 5.5" RUGER BISLEY. 9.5grs TO 10.5grs OF UNIQUE WITH 250 - 260 GRAIN CAST BULLETS IN YOUR LARGE FRAME VAQUERO AND YOU SHOULD EASILY FIND WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR. START AT 9.5grs OF UNIQUE AND LADDER UP.
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Post by 45MAN on Apr 29, 2024 13:33:53 GMT -5
ONE OTHER NOTE: GENERALLY, THE SLOWER THE POWDER THE MORE THE VELOCITY INCREASE IN A LONGER RIFLE BARREL BUT FOR THE MV fn1899m IS LOOKING FOR I WOULD JUST STICK WITH UNIQUE.
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Post by contender on Apr 29, 2024 19:56:59 GMT -5
2400, 4227, and HS-6 all can achieve good results in a .45 Colt in the range you seek for the purposes you may desire.
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Post by pleadthe2nd on Apr 29, 2024 19:59:58 GMT -5
I use HS6 myself, looks like a popular choice here
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Post by bigbrowndog on Apr 29, 2024 20:45:00 GMT -5
Contender nailed it on useful powders, you can add Titegroup and Universal Clays for loads that run mid range on the power scale, 900-1100fps. The Hodgdon site usually lists 45 colt loads for pistol and rifle, so you can see what type of gains you’ll get from a rifle.
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Post by bushog on Apr 29, 2024 22:05:05 GMT -5
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Post by GSSP on Apr 30, 2024 14:01:17 GMT -5
13.0 gr HS-6 or 10 gr Power Pistol Should clarify, I don't have any experience hunting out west or really big game. I hunt whitetail here in NC and it's woods distances in the neighborhood of 20 to 40 yards. Under those circumstances the moderate loads I use is sufficient.
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Post by markh66 on Apr 30, 2024 19:18:28 GMT -5
Haha! The closest I come to an animal that size was in the 70's. I was a little kid running around in the woods pretending to be a big game hunter. Me and my Red Ryder killed a lot of bear,elk and moose.
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Post by bearskinner on Apr 30, 2024 21:36:56 GMT -5
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Post by bigbore5 on May 1, 2024 0:34:20 GMT -5
Hunting NC big game, if you live in the mountains or coast, can involve some rather sizeable black bear as well. It's not unusual for there to be a 400+ pounder around even here in Gaston county. Given that fact, I usually tailor my hunting loads towards them.
I like Universal, but it's impossible to find right now. Power Pistol has shown to be a decent midrange powder. I use Shooters World Heavy Pistol under the 250-280gr class 45C loads as well.
When in a bear area, if I want to carry the 45C, I load a 300+gr bullet to 1100fps from the 4-5/8" Blackhawk. Easy to shoot, but will break bones and drive deep. I have never chosen the 45C as a bear hunting round, but my father swore by it with Ruger-only loads using 240gr hp for deer. If I recall correctly, he used 2400 powder. It did well on them, until he switched to the Contender in 35Rem exclusively.
I would suggest instead of trusting internet forum load data in general that you subscribe to Loaddata.com. It's about the price of a loading manual but includes data from the powder and bullet manufacturers, as well as reputable sources such as Handloader magazine and published proven data from writers like Mr Taffin.
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Post by sixshot on May 2, 2024 10:22:50 GMT -5
Two very good loads that are somewhat standard & were used a great deal by Silhouette shooters was 18.5 grs of 2400 or 20.0 grs of 4227. Not maximum loads but definitely beyond the loads you mention above. The 2400 load uses a standard LP primer, you might try standard & magnum with the 4227, usually the magnum works best. This was with the 250-260 gr bullets mentioned.
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