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Post by hunter01 on Mar 28, 2024 18:12:27 GMT -5
Having a background in precision rifles has probably hindered my advancement in the revolver game somewhat. Rifle fundamentals are VERY easy to master vs the handgun and so i spent most of my time shooting ELR or chasing tiny groups. I have been focused more with my handguns on bench shooting and groups than actually learning the fundamentals of handgunning. Seeing all of the fine marksmanship posted here and especially seeing what cholla can do with his fixed sighted ubertis got me thinking about getting away from the bench and really mastering the handgun. For the last two evenings i have been shooting unsupported iron sights at 100yds. Its fun and the clang of the steel is very satisfying. I feel like ive really lept forward with my trigger control shooting this way and ive often been leaving a chamber or two empty to keep myself honest. So i painted my targets and decided to shoot some "deep seated" 255's over 10gr of universal for 1200fps out of a BFR 44mag. I wanted to see if i was actually holding a group or just clanging steel. 10 rounds fired and 10 hits later this is what i have. Im tickled. The load has never been put on paper so i dont even know what its potential is and The wind is howling so im going to blame some of the horizontal on that! Just the fact that i was able to squeeze off 10 shots with no panic or loss of control is a great feeling for me. You can see my 125yd target in the background. I went 5 for 6 on it. Its amazing how much difference 25yds makes with these open sights.  |
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Post by aciera on Mar 28, 2024 18:26:12 GMT -5
John Linebaugh changed my way of shooting.
250gr at 900. 8 gr of 231.
Get a coffee can full.
Put a 5 gallon bucket out at maybe 250 on a hillside of a field that was plowed and now dry.
So you can see your hits.
We’d sit with our backs on the Blazer wheels and shoot off our knees.
Training your brain. Pretty soon you are hitting the bucket. Not every time. But you could see your misses.
Sort of made it easier to see how you were doing.
Good times.
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Post by kevshell on Mar 28, 2024 18:30:41 GMT -5
John Linebaugh changed my way of shooting. 250gr at 900. 8 gr of 231. Get a coffee can full. Put a 5 gallon bucket out at maybe 250 on a hillside of a field that was plowed and now dry. So you can see your hits. We’d sit with our backs on the Blazer wheels and shoot off our knees. Training your brain. Pretty soon you are hitting the bucket. Not every time. But you could see your misses. Sort of made it easier to see how you were doing. Good times. It's crazy how accurate and easy to shoot that load is. |
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Post by aciera on Mar 28, 2024 18:34:27 GMT -5
John Linebaugh changed my way of shooting. 250gr at 900. 8 gr of 231. Get a coffee can full. Put a 5 gallon bucket out at maybe 250 on a hillside of a field that was plowed and now dry. So you can see your hits. We’d sit with our backs on the Blazer wheels and shoot off our knees. Training your brain. Pretty soon you are hitting the bucket. Not every time. But you could see your misses. Sort of made it easier to see how you were doing. Good times. It's crazy how accurate and easy to shoot that load is. Yeah. Sort of a zen way of training your brain. John the Zen Master |
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Post by hunter01 on Mar 28, 2024 18:34:33 GMT -5
John Linebaugh changed my way of shooting. 250gr at 900. 8 gr of 231. Get a coffee can full. Put a 5 gallon bucket out at maybe 250 on a hillside of a field that was plowed and now dry. So you can see your hits. We’d sit with our backs on the Blazer wheels and shoot off our knees. Training your brain. Pretty soon you are hitting the bucket. Not every time. But you could see your misses. Sort of made it easier to see how you were doing. Good times. That sounds fun! I do practice quite a bit shooting off my knees because 95% of my hunting shots are taken that way. Im working on trigger control totally unsupported now because ive passed a lot of shots that way for lack of confidence. |
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Post by aciera on Mar 28, 2024 18:38:41 GMT -5
John Linebaugh changed my way of shooting. 250gr at 900. 8 gr of 231. Get a coffee can full. Put a 5 gallon bucket out at maybe 250 on a hillside of a field that was plowed and now dry. So you can see your hits. We’d sit with our backs on the Blazer wheels and shoot off our knees. Training your brain. Pretty soon you are hitting the bucket. Not every time. But you could see your misses. Sort of made it easier to see how you were doing. Good times. That sounds fun! I do practice quite a bit shooting off my knees because 95% of my hunting shots are taken that way. Im working on trigger control totally unsupported now because ive passed a lot of shots that way for lack of confidence. Well it’s easy on the body too. David Bradshaw said to quit when you start to tire. Or you start to compensate in bad ways. John had 3 Dillion 550 We’d take a brake and to shoot again. And off the knees eliminated a couple of variables Practice. And the chatting makes you use your subconscious And you critique each other. Good times |
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Post by hgunhtr on Mar 28, 2024 18:40:35 GMT -5
Nice! You have come far Pilgrim. offhand shooting is tough and only gets tougher with wind. I was once told that handgun basics transfer to rifles but rifle basics dont transfer to handguns. I shoot rifles to stay proficient enough to get things done, however I manage most of my time with the handguns for hunting accuracy. Like we discussed the other day, you are more likely to get a shot like you are practicing now than a benched shot close, unless your sitting the hidey hole. Are those the steel targets from Cee Vee?
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Post by aciera on Mar 28, 2024 18:44:05 GMT -5
Nice! You have come far Pilgrim. offhand shooting is tough and only gets tougher with wind. I was once told that handgun basics transfer to rifles but rifle basics dont transfer to handguns. I shoot rifles to stay proficient enough to get things done, however I manage most of my time with the handguns for hunting accuracy. Like we discussed the other day, you are more likely to get a shot like you are practicing now than a benched shot close, unless your sitting the hidey hole. Are those the steel targets from Cee Vee? Thinking through that…..it does seem quite true. The handgun/rifle…..rifle/handgun thing |
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Post by hunter01 on Mar 28, 2024 18:59:02 GMT -5
Nice! You have come far Pilgrim. offhand shooting is tough and only gets tougher with wind. I was once told that handgun basics transfer to rifles but rifle basics dont transfer to handguns. I shoot rifles to stay proficient enough to get things done, however I manage most of my time with the handguns for hunting accuracy. Like we discussed the other day, you are more likely to get a shot like you are practicing now than a benched shot close, unless your sitting the hidey hole. Are those the steel targets from Cee Vee? Yes sir. Brought them over to turkey a couple weeks ago. |
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Post by hunter01 on Mar 28, 2024 19:04:15 GMT -5
That sounds fun! I do practice quite a bit shooting off my knees because 95% of my hunting shots are taken that way. Im working on trigger control totally unsupported now because ive passed a lot of shots that way for lack of confidence. Well it’s easy on the body too. David Bradshaw said to quit when you start to tire. Or you start to compensate in bad ways. John had 3 Dillion 550 We’d take a brake and to shoot again. And off the knees eliminated a couple of variables Practice. And the chatting makes you use your subconscious And you critique each other. Good times I have a habit of tilting my head forward the more tired i get. Its very natural and i dont notice it until the brim of my hat gets in the way of the sights. Its another bad habit im working on breaking. I "feel" a lot more focused when i keep my head more upright. Its something ive just started to notice. |
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Post by hgunhtr on Mar 28, 2024 19:06:51 GMT -5
cant wait to get together to burn some powder. gonna be in Kansas for more than a few days in april. if you have time, maybe we can get together and do some shooting. I'll bring a couple 44's and a bunch of ammo and we will try to wear out those steel targets.
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Post by hunter01 on Mar 28, 2024 19:08:11 GMT -5
cant wait to get together to burn some powder. gonna be in Kansas for more than a few days in april. if you have time, maybe we can get together and do some shooting. I'll bring a couple 44's and a bunch of ammo and we will try to wear out those steel targets. Absolutely! Bring some coolers and you can try to wear out some pigs too. |
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Post by hgunhtr on Mar 28, 2024 19:13:16 GMT -5
I have coolers and gun, will travel!
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Post by fm027 on Mar 28, 2024 19:17:40 GMT -5
I too shot LR rifle for a great many years before putting any significant time toward accurate handgunning. I have long carried on the trapline & pastures for close range dispatch, but for 20+ years that was the extent shooting with intended accuracy went with a revolver for me. I got into big bore sixguns "downrange" seriously only in the past 10-15 years.
Personally, it's focus, follow through and repeatability that crosses back n forth between the two disciplines of LR rifle & handguns. Those points magnified more-so than anything else. At least as far as technique goes. Handguns/revolvers take "that much more" to master is all, due to stability. The basic principles to doing it aren't insanely different though.
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Post by bigbore5 on Mar 28, 2024 19:51:01 GMT -5
I have shot many thousands of rounds after a day at Contender's showed me how badly I shot!
As far as field shooting goes, best practice for me is shooting groundhog and coyotes. I still shoot a bunch of stumps,rocks, and dirt clods, but a game animal that's doing it's thing adds the estimating range and shooting from where you can into it.
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