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Post by tentcamper on Feb 19, 2024 10:24:15 GMT -5
Neither my reloading manuals nor my search attempts have gleaned me much info. I have several boxes of Hornady .452 300 gr XTPs (#45230) I'd like to play with in my Redhawk and Blackhawk. (These are the single cannelure 300s, by the way.) I'd like to use IMR4227, 2400 or even Unique for my handloads as these are the powders I have on hand.
Due to my search attempt failures I may have to get the Hornady reloading manual. Not a problem but for that price I'd like to be certain of a few things beforehand.
Does the Hornady manual list specs for all brass or just Hornady? I know some Hornady brass is shorter than Starline, Winchester, etc.
Does the Hornady manual only list for Hornady products or is the Hornady manual "all inclusive" of multiple brands of brass and bullets, etc?
For my particular application, is there enough data for 45 Colt to warrant the Hornady manual? My Lyman 51 already lists for example XTP data in 41 Magnum, 44 Special and 44 Magnum but lists nothing for 45 Colt heavier than 255 grain cast. In other words will the Hornady manual be redundant of the Lyman or does Hornady really expand nicely into lots of additional load data for handguns?
Thanks again for any help.
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Post by bula on Feb 19, 2024 10:40:50 GMT -5
Doubt any one that makes brass will do all the extra testing, to show others brass. To my knowledge, short Hornady brass refers to brass that was used in some calibers for leverguns that they loaded with the gummy tip bullets ? Anyone, correct me if wrong. Soo..a Hornady manual in my lap now. From 1997 , . SAAMI spec 45 Long Colt does stop at the 250gr weight. Flip a page to the "Ruger n TC Only" page and there is your bullet. If you are shooting a Ruger or , looks like YES, the following. 2400 starting charge of 14.3grs and they stop, MAX at 15.3. Remember this data published in 1997, who here remembers the year 2400 got a bit faster ? I do not. IMR4227 maybe the better choice, starts at 17.9 grs and stops, MAX, at 21.. Message me a cell number and I can send a pic by that method of pages.
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Post by bula on Feb 19, 2024 11:01:22 GMT -5
Sent.. and received. Am happy.
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Post by seminolewind on Feb 19, 2024 11:12:41 GMT -5
The Hornady manual is a great source of reloading information, but my money was better spent on a load data.com subscription. It’s an annual expense, but worth it in my experience.
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Post by magnumwheelman on Feb 19, 2024 11:34:14 GMT -5
I actually tried some 300 grain XTP factory ammo in my snubbie, shooting into wet sand, & they did not expand well out of my shorter barrel at factory loaded velocities... your results may vary if using upper load levels & or a longer barrel
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Post by bula on Feb 19, 2024 12:53:24 GMT -5
Asking for.. I've 44's here and 300gr xTP's, dual cannelures. Years ago had a printed out sheet of data for WW296 and long seated. I cannot find. A 44mag SBHH can make use of this, I don't want to re-invent the wheel, nor burn the components to do so. Help ? Now, it would be H110.. Understand the slight to no difference, other than batch changes..
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pete
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Post by pete on Feb 19, 2024 16:39:44 GMT -5
In the late 90s, when the XTPs were new, I needed data to load for my cousin's 454 but hadn't seen the latest manual with these bullets. A call to Hornady and a conversation with one of the tech guys gave me all the info I needed. They're a great resource when all else fails, and they're happy to help.
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Post by bigbrowndog on Feb 19, 2024 19:48:12 GMT -5
LoadData.com is your friend
Trapr
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Post by tentcamper on Feb 20, 2024 8:06:08 GMT -5
LoadData.com is your friend Trapr Curious about that. How "vetted" are the loads listed on Loaddata? |
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Post by bigbrowndog on Feb 20, 2024 15:23:45 GMT -5
Very, they will list where the data comes from then you can decide if you like it or not
Trapr
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Post by kevshell on Feb 20, 2024 20:52:24 GMT -5
LoadData.com is your friend Trapr Curious about that. How "vetted" are the loads listed on Loaddata? Loaddata is unlike websites that allow people to deposit their load data no matter how repetitive, or dangerous their data may be. Loaddatas information primarily comes from powder manufacturer's and bullet manufacturer's books/website and then from Rifle and Handloader publications. To me it it the best single source of load data available. |
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Post by kevshell on Feb 20, 2024 21:19:50 GMT -5
I just looked. Theres about 15+ loads with 2400 and 4227 with the 300 XTP.
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Post by bigbore5 on Feb 20, 2024 21:57:57 GMT -5
I love Load data. Worth every penny.
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Post by tentcamper on Feb 21, 2024 13:43:00 GMT -5
Thanks, all.
I'll look into LoadData.
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gnappi
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Post by gnappi on Feb 21, 2024 14:22:31 GMT -5
I've owned several of "The Complete Reloading Manuals" for various calibers. I like them around my loading benches. www.loadbooks.com |
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