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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 19, 2023 11:08:41 GMT -5
I have a 2" diameter piece of carpenter stainless left as a drop. I also have an "extra" Redhawk.
After watching some of Lee's videos on here I am confident in my skills enough to build a 5-shot cylinder. I'll practice making a dummy on cold roll first of course, but it doesn't look as difficult as some things I do everyday.
The Redhawk was originally bought to be fitted with a factory 45 barrel I have and rechambered to a tight Linebaugh spec 45 Colt. But this piece of metal has me thinking.
What should I do? 5-shot 475? 500 JRH? Open the window for a 7-shot 41?
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 19, 2023 11:18:22 GMT -5
Some confusion here. Carpenter is a Brand Name, so I'll assume you're talking specifically about 465 since you mentioned Redhawks/SRHs?
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Post by RDW on Jun 19, 2023 11:58:30 GMT -5
Some confusion here. Carpenter is a Brand Name, so I'll assume you're talking specifically about 465 since you mentioned Redhawks/SRHs? FACT!!!!!! What Grade is it. They make one of the best most well regulated 17-4 ph on the planet. If it is 465 you will find that it wont be as easy as you think. The 17 -4 is a dream. Their 465 is harder than wood pecker lips and will mangle some of the best tooling. It is a brilliant matrix but you need to know the tricks before you start mowing on it. It will require a totally different cutting tecnique. R PS: i mosshed up a number of tools before i got it down and it is totally unnecasary unless you are going to stay with the 6 shot configuration. If its the cool factor your after, Well i completely understand. Hahaha. ME 2. LOL
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cdf41
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Post by cdf41 on Jun 19, 2023 12:43:39 GMT -5
My vote would be 5 shot 475 linebaugh Or 500 linebaugh.
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Post by Lee Martin on Jun 19, 2023 12:48:23 GMT -5
I made one cylinder out of 465....and it was my last. As Ronnie noted, it's hard as hell on tooling. 17-4 or 416 are so much easier to work with. And both have plenty of strength. I've long said if you blow up 17-4, you're probably going to blow 465 too. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time"
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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 19, 2023 13:07:06 GMT -5
Sorry. I meant to put it in the title. It's 465.
I machine this stuff often enough to know what it takes. I build pressure relief devices and valves for the power generation industry. Compared to Stellite or the V-series steels, I would rather work with the Carpenter alloys.
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 19, 2023 13:12:05 GMT -5
In that case, 500 JRH with the full size rim.
Better bullet selection than either Linebaugh. With the full size rim you can simply trim 500 S&W Brass and use Starline 500 Special.
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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 19, 2023 13:17:58 GMT -5
I've already got a Redhawk in 500L. Haven't tried the JRH yet. Haven't seen any need other than it's cool.
The 500L loaded to potential out performs it ans allows a wider range of bullet weight. I don't shoot jacketed in anything bigger than the 10mm
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Post by sixguntech on Jun 19, 2023 14:26:25 GMT -5
I would leave as much “meat” on it, as possible, and build a six shot .475.
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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 19, 2023 15:32:38 GMT -5
I'll have to do some cad layout and see what I can fit and how much I can open the window. A six shot 475 +p would be a great first gun build, wouldn't it?
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norfok
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Post by norfok on Jun 19, 2023 17:05:31 GMT -5
...if you blow up 17-4,... Has this ever happened?
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Post by Encore64 on Jun 19, 2023 17:30:29 GMT -5
I once saw a FA83 in 454 Casull with 5 Hammered Lines running lengthwise over the chambers. The owner had been loading the cartridges so hot the cylinder was expanding and hitting the topstrap when firing.
But, 17-4 is very Ductile and springs back nicely. Chambers pin gauged the same as an unabused gun.
However, I also saw one blown apart. On second hand information, the owner confused 231 with 296. I never spoke to the owner to verify if that was true or not...
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Post by wilecoyote on Jun 19, 2023 17:44:29 GMT -5
my first post here to say hello to everyone first, thinkin' that if I had the OP's skills my .44SRH would already have one unfluted cylinder_ ...just dreaming...
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shorty500
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Post by shorty500 on Jun 19, 2023 18:29:25 GMT -5
Hoorah for you if you do it! Machinist/toolmaker/gunsmith of 40 years here- spent my most recent career years in medical so 465 comes up regularly. I don’t mind milling, gundrilling etc, but everyone I know hates turning it. Am in virtual lockstep with Lee- 17-4 is good enough. I personally hate 416 and most other 400 series ss.
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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 19, 2023 20:24:41 GMT -5
Mr. Wells ran the dimensions. 6-shot 475 is a no fit. Just not enough room to fit in and run +p type 475 pressure with more than 5 chambers. Too thin between the cylinder walls and way too thin under the bolt notch. But it would have been cool.
Not sure what I will do with the piece I have, but I am sure as I am learning to make gun parts I'll find a use for it.
We always have scrap drops of 17-4 laying around. Maybe I should put this piece up and get to using it before it goes to the scrap man.
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