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Post by handloadingnotes on Jun 20, 2023 12:46:57 GMT -5
One more high pressure option, since nobody has mentioned it (probably because it’s a bad idea, lol): hot 357 Magnum, or 353 Casull sixguns.com/tests/tt353.htmThere’s an 8 round factory 357 Redhawk. A 7 round ultra tough beast would be different.
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Post by potatojudge on Jun 20, 2023 13:46:26 GMT -5
It seems like the next move up isn't stronger steel, but stronger cases. Who is trimming 277 Fury cases to 454 length and loading them in a Redhawk cut for moon clips?
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Post by RDW on Jun 20, 2023 15:45:22 GMT -5
There seems to be no limit to what can be learned on here. The collective knowledge is mind boggling. As we've discussed before, you can include me on the 17-4 Fan List. I spoke to Brett at Magnum Research about the New 6-Shot BFR 454 Casull. He said extensive testing showed no problems and added no complaints from customers yet. That in itself is a testament to 17-4's Stength!!! I actually shot it this past week at the shootist holiday. These were full power super get down and boogie loads to. Me and brett were spankin a Rock shaped like a Banana which they told me was confirmed 586 Yards with that very test gun. And letme tell ya. Brett aint no punk. Young man can shoot! Brett builds some killer stuff man. He had a 45 70 with a rifle length barrel that was an A.. kicker. Tank Hoover, and David Fink as well as Shane Jahn were pounding a 400 meter steel plate with my old stove pipe 357 max and a 445 supermag that i built long ago. God i love going to the shootist holiday.
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Post by bradshaw on Jun 20, 2023 15:46:55 GMT -5
It seems like the next move up isn't stronger steel, but stronger cases. Who is trimming 277 Fury cases to 455 length and loading them in a Redhawk cut for moon clips? ***** The case is the head gasket of a firearm chambering a self-contained cartridge. Its job is the seal the breech. Pressure testing devices lose contact at 90,000 psi. Brass is subject to flow before that, and should not be expected to hold much after. Proof ammo, aka Blue Pills,” condemn brass on firing. Reloading it provides a quick lesson in false economy. David Bradshaw
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Post by RDW on Jun 20, 2023 15:48:21 GMT -5
I do enjoy the typical responses that follow a post like Ronnie’s……….paraphrased, “yeah but”. Not that Encore is that person by any means, it just seems there are some folks that do not wish to accept factual experience. Again I’m not saying Encore is, was or would reply that way, but I wouldn’t be surprised if someone did. as for me I’m plum stupid when it comes to metallurgy, running a lathe, milling machine or stuff like that, I just shoot. Trapr Hahaha. Beleive me when i tell ya. He knows what hes doing and if he doesnt he has a good list of people who do. Dave Clements is a walking library index card of knowledge with the experience to back it. And as far as just shootin, I CAN DIGGIT!
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Post by RDW on Jun 20, 2023 15:49:08 GMT -5
It seems like the next move up isn't stronger steel, but stronger cases. Who is trimming 277 Fury cases to 455 length and loading them in a Redhawk cut for moon clips? ***** The case is the head gasket of a firearm chambering a self-contained cartridge. Its job is the seal the breech. Pressure testing devices lose contact at 90,000 psi. Brass is subject to flow before that, and should not be expected to hold much after. Proof ammo, aka Blue Pills,” condemn brass on firing. Reloading it provides a quick lesson in false economy. David Bradshaw HEAR HEAR
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Post by RDW on Jun 20, 2023 16:28:08 GMT -5
One more high pressure option, since nobody has mentioned it (probably because it’s a bad idea, lol): hot 357 Magnum, or 353 Casull sixguns.com/tests/tt353.htmThere’s an 8 round factory 357 Redhawk. A 7 round ultra tough beast would be different. THE REDHAWK IS A BEAST! 8 shooter is just fine for 357 mag. The chamber to chamber on an 8 shooter is adequate for a .375 Chamber. But the 7 is fantastic for the 360 Dan Wesson. for those of you who have not shortened 357 max cases to 1.450" or 360DWs at 1.400" leme tell you about a really nasty 38 cal mini beast. I am loading the 360 to the top of the hornady 357 max for 180 XTPs 18.5 grains of H110 and it is very effecient. It will run right up there with the max on 180 plus grain bullets. Lee Martin and Mr Bradshaws 194 grainer was a show stopper. I am Not Kidding you man. Lee sent me some powder coated and they were like a heat seeking missle. 18.5 of 4227 in the Max and the 360 DW. Both were superbly accurate and carried way the hell out there. I have a Redhawk with its stock 1.750" Length 7 shooter cylinder, 17-4 PH, no problems and gobs of FPS! .100 thou between and gobs of OD. I made my Bradshaw Bison finger groove blackhawk with the Hunter style barrel a six shooter but after Tank Hoover wrang it out with me last week im going to sevenafy that mammy now. I have a 32 H&R in eight shot on a redhawk that i built in the 80s. few years back i galged her out for 327. Havent shot it a lot but same thing , NO PROBLEMO! Mr Handloadingnotes, the one thing i had to do on the 8 shooter was move the fulcrum point on the hammer in toward center a bit so it didnt carry the cylinder up to far! Other than that it is very doable. Same goes for the blackhawk. R
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Post by RDW on Jun 20, 2023 16:33:13 GMT -5
It seems like the next move up isn't stronger steel, but stronger cases. Who is trimming 277 Fury cases to 455 length and loading them in a Redhawk cut for moon clips? ooooooo! Thats a good idea Tater Judge. Lets make one. hahaha.
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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 20, 2023 16:38:07 GMT -5
I really do like the idea of the 7-shot 357 DW. Really liking it out of my maximum, just haven't gotten around to a dedicated revolver for it. Might have to get a little drop off some 17-4 tomorrow.
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Post by RDW on Jun 20, 2023 16:43:29 GMT -5
I really do like the idea of the 7-shot 357 DW. Really liking it out of my maximum, just haven't gotten around to a dedicated revolver for it. Might have to get a little drop off some 17-4 tomorrow. Me to Buddy. This thing is an Animal. Its fixin to go all seven like.
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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 20, 2023 16:55:34 GMT -5
Nice revolver. It's almost perfect except for the grip frame could be shaped a little better! 😁! You already know my choice. You named it after me.
Hmm.. finger grooves..
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Post by RDW on Jun 20, 2023 17:03:10 GMT -5
Nice revolver. It's almost perfect except for the grip frame could be shaped a little better! 😁! You already know my choice. You named it after me. Hmm.. finger grooves.. Ya i Know you old Bananna grip lover you. Hahaha. I bet you would change your mind once you shot it. David Fink loved it. Tank, Doc Baranti,and a whole slew of others got down on some target action with it and shot very well. Ole Boge quinn thought it was the cats meow! He is so Cool.
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wpeel
.30 Stingray
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Post by wpeel on Jun 20, 2023 19:24:59 GMT -5
Nice revolver. It's almost perfect except for the grip frame could be shaped a little better! 😁! You already know my choice. You named it after me. Hmm.. finger grooves.. I LIKE IT!
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Post by bigbore5 on Jun 21, 2023 3:59:58 GMT -5
I may try one.
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Post by aciera on Jun 23, 2023 16:43:27 GMT -5
Curious....what do you guys have against 416? Machines beautifully and is plenty strong at Rockwell 38 - 42. My first 5-shot .454 Casull conversion on a Ruger was out of 416. I can't tell you how much it's absorbed since I built it in 1996. -Lee www.singleactions.com"Chasing perfection five shots at a time" I understand!!!! 416 is the easiest material I cut…….Like Butter. Nice finish and you can HOG it.
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