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Post by squawberryman on May 28, 2023 18:46:15 GMT -5
If someone did that to my gun it would damage their face.
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Post by cas on May 28, 2023 19:12:03 GMT -5
Introduced my nephew to a double action revolver a couple weeks ago. He'd never fired one, I don't believe even handled a double action revolver before that. Before I handed it to him I said, you may have seen people do this, especially on TV or the movies, but don't ever do this, this, or this, while gently mimicking banging the cylinder open, snapping the cylinder closer and spinning the cylinder and closing it while it was spinning, then explaining why each one was bad for the gun. He admitted that he'd never even thought about what that was doing to it, mechanically.
I also try to express to people that it's not "best practice" to shoot them with cases in only one or a couple chambers.
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Post by 500fksjr on May 28, 2023 21:08:25 GMT -5
Great Thread!!!
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Post by wendigo on May 28, 2023 21:55:38 GMT -5
I've seen that move along with some other Gomer gun handling displays from gun shop employees, I mentally cross that particular piece off my wish list. Only place outside of a shop I've seen it was shooting with a Border Patrol agent who I assumed knew better - he didn't...
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Post by bigbore5 on May 29, 2023 1:12:15 GMT -5
When I broke my hand and had to have surgery I spent alot of time shooting one handed with my off hand.
Open cylinder, press ejector rod with my cast, slide gun into the top of my pants, use speed loader. Then push cylinder closed, draw, fire again. Got where it takes less time to do than to type. Never flipped a cylinder closed.
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Post by x101airborne on May 29, 2023 7:26:55 GMT -5
"Cylinder flip" was the first thing I taught my son not to do when he got his trade in Model 10. I believe my instruction started with "Never never ever ever ever..."
I have been fortunate to handle many fine arms belonging to new friends and I always try to look them in the eye respectfully when they say "Do this." or "Dont do that." and my reply is cooperative. I know how I would feel if someone cylinder flipped my 1977 Python shut. I'd be wearing a cast on my hand another 9 weeks.
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Post by jgt on May 29, 2023 8:06:20 GMT -5
I was watching a documentary about the guys that the Air Force trains to parachute in to rescue downed pilots. In an advanced part of the training they were filming an instructor. This guy seem to love being in front of a camera. He was loading a six inch model 19 to hand to a student for his first attempt at qualifying with a handgun. He spun the cylinder and flipped the crane closed then handed it to the trainee. In that moment he lost all creditability in my eyes and I quit watching.
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Post by cas on May 29, 2023 13:27:31 GMT -5
To many they're just tools and have no idea what makes them work or how to treat them. And know very little about the tools themselves.
I can't even recall how many times reading books (autobiographies) by real deal sniper/LRRP/seals or whatever and read something so incorrect, often very much so that it boggles the mind. "How could you do all this stuff, know all this other stuff, but be so completely clueless on these pretty basic things? "
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Post by jeffh on May 29, 2023 14:03:49 GMT -5
To many they're just tools...
I hear people say that - "it's a tool," or it's JUST a tool."
I don't know how relegating something to tool status makes it OK to disrespect and abuse it. I've been taught to take care of my tools - all of them. I don't toss files into a drawer on top one another, beat on the back of an axe or pry with my shovel. One way or another, I paid for those tools and if I ruin them, I'll have to pay again - and use them for years to get the handles smooth and shiny and feeling like they are MY tools because they fit me.
Every time someone uses that particular term for a gun, in that particular vein, I think "Buddy, YOU'RE the TOOL!"
Yep, my guns are tools - every one of them, but I take care of my tools, even if it's a wreckin' bar and ESPECIALLY if it's complicated and expensive.
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Post by needsmostuff on May 29, 2023 18:24:53 GMT -5
Along with the cyl. flip taboo there is now enough water under the bridge that few remember, or care, how to load a Colt SA or close a Colt DA to avoid a turn line.
To me it almost just as big of a sin.
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Post by parallaxbill on May 30, 2023 6:40:38 GMT -5
Along with the cyl. flip taboo there is now enough water under the bridge that few remember, or care, how to load a Colt SA or close a Colt DA to avoid a turn line. To me it almost just as big of a sin. 100% agree! And in addition, as a retired R&D machinist with 42 years of experience, I depended on my tools for my livelihood and they were cared for with much respect. I was very careful who I let borrow or even handle my tools just as I would any of my firearms. Careless or thoughtless treatment of tools or firearms is a sin in my book. |
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Post by rufus on May 30, 2023 10:20:29 GMT -5
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I also try to express to people that it's not "best practice" to shoot them with cases in only one or a couple chambers.[/quote]
Never heard this before, why is this so ?
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Post by jeffh on May 30, 2023 10:22:27 GMT -5
...Careless or thoughtless treatment of tools or firearms is a sin in my book.
It's not about being "obsessive" or "anal," but rather about values.
Many have been raised now with no sense of consequence.
If it breaks, oh, well, buy a new one.
Look at phones - people break $1,000+ phones and just buy a new one.
$1,000 would buy a danged nice gun (several, given MY tastes and preferences), which would last several lifetimes as long as you were mindful and respectful with it.
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Post by Encore64 on May 30, 2023 10:29:07 GMT -5
To many they're just tools...
I hear people say that - "it's a tool," or it's JUST a tool."
I don't know how relegating something to tool status makes it OK to disrespect and abuse it. I've been taught to take care of my tools - all of them. I don't toss files into a drawer on top one another, beat on the back of an axe or pry with my shovel. One way or another, I paid for those tools and if I ruin them, I'll have to pay again - and use them for years to get the handles smooth and shiny and feeling like they are MY tools because they fit me.
Every time someone uses that particular term for a gun, in that particular vein, I think "Buddy, YOU'RE the TOOL!"
Yep, my guns are tools - every one of them, but I take care of my tools, even if it's a wreckin' bar and ESPECIALLY if it's complicated and expensive.
I'm the same way... Had a friend comment some time back "you must never use your tools." We were in my shop when the comment was made. I was confused, so asked him to explain. He told me his assessment was made because every time he was there my tools were in the same place. It occurred to me that he had zero concept of wiping a tool off with an oily rag and putting it back on the pegboard after use. But, this is the same guy who'll use a Crescent or Socket Wrench for a hammer. |
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Post by parallaxbill on May 30, 2023 11:10:24 GMT -5
[quote author= I also try to express to people that it's not "best practice" to shoot them with cases in only one or a couple chambers. Never heard this before, why is this so ?[/quote] Yeah, I usually practice my revolver shooting with random empty chambers to check my flinch development and to correct it. Am I missing something? |
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