wrist snap close cylinder

[gray1]

  I think I have read where its not advised to do.But if your showing someone your revolver and they do that or if you think there going to. If you say wait don't do that or don't do that again .What does it damage ?

[bradshaw]

May 28, 2023 8:27:34 GMT -5 gray1 said:

  I think I have read where its not advised to do.But if your showing someone your revolver and they do that or if you think there going to. If you say wait don't do that or don't do that again .What does it damage ?

*****

Do not hand revolver to firearms-illiterate person who has no concept of MUZZLE CONTROL.

Demonstrate:
1) muzzle control.
2) finger off trigger,
3) how to check to see if gun is loaded.

Always check to see if gun is loaded. Don’t check to see if gun is un-loaded; check to see if it is loaded.

To close a swing out cylinder via wrist-flip risks springing the yoke (crane) on an S&W or some other revolvers. The violence tends to egg-shape the cylinder pin hole in the standing breech of an S&W, and can batter the cylinder stop (bolt), stop slot in frame, and stop notches on cylinder. An all-around bad deal. Whether James Cagney or Frank Sinatra, real gangsters or cops invented this macho display, it confesses ignorance.

To disrespect a dangerous instrument disrespects life.
David Bradshaw

[nicholst55]

The crane/yoke can easily be bent, causing misalignment of the chambers with the bore is the first thing that comes to mind. Whenever I allow anyone to handle one of my swing-out cylinder revolvers, I first tell them NOT to slam the cylinder shut.

[gnappi]

I have a pre-owned 686+ that the PO must have done that to because the crane needs replacement.

[Encore64]

Hard to comprehend why anyone would pay for a gun then abuse it that way anyhow. Seems a movie stunt with no benefit...

[bigbore5]

Never did that. Don't know why I would.

[45MAN]

A FEW YEARS BACK WHEN I HOSTED SIXSHOT's GRANDSON AND 2 OTHER MARINE GUNNIES (E-7) AT MY HIGHPOINT RANCH (SOLD IN 2022), ONE OF THE GUNNIES DID NOT KNOW HOW TO OPERATE REVOLVERS. THE YOUNGER GENERATIONS DROOL OVER SEMI-AUTO HANDGUNS AND AR's BUT THEN FOR TOO MANY OF THEM THEY DO NOT KNOW MUCH ABOUT REVOLVERS.

[bradshaw]

May 28, 2023 8:49:24 GMT -5 gnappi said:

I have a pre-owned 686+ that the PO must have done that to because the crane needs replacement.

*****

Some old armorers at Smith & Wesson could tune a Smith with a lead hammer similar to a master tuner on my mother's Steinway, although I didn’t see a lead hammer among the piano tuner’s tools.
David Bradshaw

[jeffh]

If someone chooses to be offended if I correct or instruct before handing them a gun, knife, bow, whatever, fine with me.

I rarely hand any of the above to someone I do not know and know well, but IF I do, which is necessary at gun shows, I ask if they've handled one before and give them a list of things to NOT do before handing it over. Funny how the geezers (I think I am one too now) don't get offended. I don't either. I respect and appreciate when someone lays out their ground rules before handing me one of theirs. "Understood," with a nod is the proper response and then FOLLOW their instructions, even if they seem a bit over-kill, or just decline to handle the thing.

Now, what offends ME is people mishandling firearms, especially being unconscious of where the muzzle is pointing. I get the biggest kick out of old guys who take a gun, look all around and the swing the muzzle low past people to find a clear path through which to swing it up to a light source to inspect a bore - even with the gun's action open, the bolt out or disassembled! THAT conveys the respect of which Mr. Bradshaw speaks.

[bigbrowndog]

Watching an old English smith hammer away at a fine H&H or Purdey double is quite a thing, especially if you do not understand or know exactly what is happening.

David’s first comment about not handing a revolver to a gun illiterate person could easily read do not hand a gun to that person. Rey’s comment about the newer generation being enamored with things semi auto also rings true. As a 16yo teenager I worked at Sporting goods store and behind the gun counter, the first thing the gun manager did was hand me every gun style on the rack and ask me to clear it and return it to the rack. Bolt, pump,auto,lever, single shot,rifles and shotguns, auto, revolvers, SA, DA, the only one I was not familiar with was the Ruger mini14. So when he handed it to me I racked it open and said I do not know what it takes to drop the bolt. Manager explained and then said he was surprised that I honestly admitted not being familiar with it, so many try and stumble through.

I think far too many try and impress rather than admit not knowing and in doing so commit stupid errors. The phrase “I know” seems to be the mantra of those that are too fragile to handle correction or proper instruction. I used to get that remark from probie firefighters when trying to instruct proper operation of various tools or methods of deployment for ropes and rescue gear. At which point I would ask them to explain it to me, this was normally followed by excuses, incorrect procedures, or blank stares.

Trapr

[AxeHandle]

I've seen salesmen standing behind the counter snap their wrist to close a cylinder. The same fruitcakes will let 1911 slides slam home with nothing in the gun. My MTU gunsmiths were always adamant about not letting just anyone handle their handiwork.

[gray1]

Thanks for the reply .I know now what I can say could be caused my that sort of behavior .

[bula]

Honest wear and tear, to be appreciated. Accelerating it due to ,fill in the blank, NO. The only possible argument for doing that , to know you can, with either hand, ONCE, with your least valuable DA revolver, not somebody elses. Not even sure of the manual at arms to run a DA, one handed. Gonna have to, and truly should have thought thru by know.  

[jeffh]

May 28, 2023 11:04:44 GMT -5 AxeHandle said:

I've seen salesmen standing behind the counter snap their wrist to close a cylinder. The same fruitcakes will let 1911 slides slam home with nothing in the gun. My MTU gunsmiths were always adamant about not letting just anyone handle their handiwork.

I personally would inform such a "salesman" that I would never buy a gun from an idiot who doesn't know how to handle it and leave.  I'm like that and not everyone likes it, but tough luck.

If there were a chance to express my concerns with the proprietor, I would, but there are SO many guns available online which have not yet been touched by "human hands" that it's just too easy to avoid the idiots.

I'm all about supporting local retailers, but local retailers have a responsibility to ME as well, if I'm expected to pay a premium for giving them my business.  Pawning me off on an idiot is a form of disrespect I will not tolerate, so SELLER BEWARE.

I used a certain, fairly well-known retailer of "remanufactured" ammunition who made a killing over the previous drought, for transfers - for a while.  He was all about what he liked and willingly did transfers for me but criticized everything I ever had him do a transfer on as he did the paperwork.  I'm OK with a guy not knowing everything about every firearm, but I'm NOT OK with a "salesman" not knowing that honey draws more flies than vinegar.  I don't need to have my butt kissed, but when a punk, less than half my age criticizes MY choices, the level of contempt I feel is off the charts.

Started driving twice as far and waiting twice as long to visit a guy who is my age and had the attitude that "hell, yeah,m I'll do a transfer!  That's twenty bucks I didn't have before you called and asked!" 

NOW, I have an old guy within a few minutes of where I work and when I call and ask, he wants to know "WHAT IS IT?!"

I tell him and I get "YEAH, you know the drill!"

I'm fine with that.

Besides, when I go in to pick it up, the "old ladies" who work there tend to be very attentive and interested in what I bought and want to see it while HE finishes the paperwork.

It dawned on me one day that the "old guy" and the "old ladies" were probably about MY age!   

[edk]

It takes all kinds. I once restored a classic sports car - over a month full time effort. Upon seeing the completed effort the owner, unable to wipe the grin off his face, proceeds to peel off Ben Franklins to square up. Upon handing him the keys he proceeds to turn left out of the drive and out of sight to the sound of running through the gears hard - then BANG! The wires on the utility pole at the end of my drive were dancing all over. Just think: you could be handing your revolver to a guy like that. If your not pretty sure then just don't.