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Post by wheelnut on Apr 6, 2023 15:26:57 GMT -5
What a wonderful 45 Colt could be used on the New Anaconda. Never hurts to hope... With the cylinder length they could go straight up to 454 Casull. I imagine that they have more to come for the Anaconda with how big it is relative to other 44 mags. Don't get me wrong, I like strong guns but it has the feeling of being capable of so much more. |
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Post by Encore64 on Apr 6, 2023 15:29:08 GMT -5
What a wonderful 45 Colt could be used on the New Anaconda. Never hurts to hope... With the cylinder length they could go straight up to 454 Casull. I imagine that they have more to come for the Anaconda with how big it is relative to other 44 mags. Don't get me wrong, I like strong guns but it has the feeling of being capable of so much more. I guess we're all the same. I love strong guns even though I don't need to load the 44 Magnum above SAAMI Specs. Ditto on Horse Power. What guy doesn't like Horse Power? |
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Post by CraigC on Apr 10, 2023 11:14:36 GMT -5
In new guns, the Colt hands down. Newer S&W's just don't do anything for me and the N-frames limitations are well known.
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Post by rufus on Apr 10, 2023 19:27:20 GMT -5
I own zero Colts but have a 629 so guess the Smith gets my vote.
There’s nothing around my parts that I cannot kill with a 240-260 hard cast bullet floating along at around 1000-1100 fps. So no worries about stressing the frame for me. If I do want to scratch that itch the Single Action Rugers get the nod for the “hot” loads.
Best of luck with your decision.
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Post by bradshaw on Apr 10, 2023 21:36:36 GMT -5
Have your cake & eat it too
Like stepping over a dead corpse, a few folk report the new Python is better than the old, labor-intensive original. So, instead of using CNC to shave production cost of the original, a new, “improved” version takes its place----and its name. Replacing the very strong Colt New Service bolt with the far weaker S&W cylinder stop. Python maestro Jerry Moran calls Colt’s version of the S&W stop inferior. While I’ve neither handled nor shot the “new model” Python, I suspect the Anaconda may borrow a few of its traits----immediately inviting a wresting match against the Redhawk/Super Redhawk. The very mass of the Anaconda demands comparison in the survival environment. The Anaconda has a chance----providing, example after individual example, the new Anaconda is better made, more durable, more accurate than S&W or Ruger.
Memory recalls how, when CNC machine process got discovered by some gun writers who wore their nose so high in the air if it rained they'd drown, they sang the CNC song Computer Numeric Control was about to bring the best gunmaking ever seen. My late shooting partner Ed Verge and I looked at each other, then drew our sixguns for a workout, Ed’s a Model 57 8-3/8” .41 Mag, mine a Model 29 6-1/2” .44 Mag. Smoke cleared, and old time revolvers slipped back into their water molded skins to gather a few more miles.
CNC and CAD Cam are great, but a dummy can’t drive the ship through narrow straights.
Freedom Arms could have headed south but, near as I can tell, newest guns handled by this shooter look like back in the Dick Casull and Wayne Baker days. Either one commits to quality... or... they sell out.
I’m back to messing’ with grip frames made by our very own Ronnie Wells. Near as I can judge this friend and his powerful conceptualization & crazy attention to detail, CNC is absolutely beautiful----in the hands of TALENT and CREATIVE HONESTY. The artist who isn’t his own worst critic is a dead artist. Lose sight of that and the work takes a dive.
Thus, it's a shame to hear a company with means & incredible machinery throws shortcuts at quality. For the hardcore shooter, all he or she wants is an honest shootin' iron. The sharpshooter knows the object of attention is the target. Your sixgun is an INSTRUMENT.... Play it!
David Bradshaw
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Post by CraigC on Apr 11, 2023 9:46:49 GMT -5
Have your cake & eat it tooLike stepping over a dead corpse, a few folk report the new Python is better than the old, labor-intensive original. So, instead of using CNC to shave production cost of the original, a new, “improved” version takes its place----and its name. Replacing the very strong Colt New Service bolt with the far weaker S&W cylinder stop. Python maestro Jerry Moran calls Colt’s version of the S&W stop inferior. While I’ve neither handled nor shot the “new model” Python, I suspect the Anaconda may borrow a few of its traits----immediately inviting a wresting match against the Redhawk/Super Redhawk. The very mass of the Anaconda demands comparison in the survival environment. The Anaconda has a chance----providing, example after individual example, the new Anaconda is better made, more durable, more accurate than S&W or Ruger. Memory recalls how, when CNC machine process got discovered by some gun writers who wore their nose so high in the air if it rained they'd drown, they sang the CNC song Computer Numeric Control was about to bring the best gunmaking ever seen. My late shooting partner Ed Verge and I looked at each other, then drew our sixguns for a workout, Ed’s a Model 57 8-3/8” .41 Mag, mine a Model 29 6-1/2” .44 Mag. Smoke cleared, and old time revolvers slipped back into their water molded skins to gather a few more miles. CNC and CAD Cam are great, but a dummy can’t drive the ship through narrow straights. Freedom Arms could have headed south but, near as I can tell, newest guns handled by this shooter look like back in the Dick Casull and Wayne Baker days. Either one commits to quality... or... they sell out. I’m back to messing’ with grip frames made by our very own Ronnie Wells. Near as I can judge this friend and his powerful conceptualization & crazy attention to detail, CNC is absolutely beautiful----in the hands of TALENT and CREATIVE HONESTY. The artist who isn’t his own worst critic is a dead artist. Lose sight of that and the work takes a dive. Thus, it's a shame to hear a company with means & incredible machinery throws shortcuts at quality. For the hardcore shooter, all he or she wants is an honest shootin' iron. The sharpshooter knows the object of attention is the target. Your sixgun is an INSTRUMENT.... Play it! David Bradshaw In the case of USFA and Freedom Arms, it was mostly true. However, I think the temptation to use CNC technology to cut costs, rather than to produce better guns, was too great for the major manufacturers to ignore. Which also satisfies the ever-present needs of the average consumer to save money above all other concerns. |
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Post by rufus on Apr 11, 2023 12:45:08 GMT -5
Have your cake & eat it tooLike stepping over a dead corpse, a few folk report the new Python is better than the old, labor-intensive original. So, instead of using CNC to shave production cost of the original, a new, “improved” version takes its place----and its name. Replacing the very strong Colt New Service bolt with the far weaker S&W cylinder stop. Python maestro Jerry Moran calls Colt’s version of the S&W stop inferior. While I’ve neither handled nor shot the “new model” Python, I suspect the Anaconda may borrow a few of its traits----immediately inviting a wresting match against the Redhawk/Super Redhawk. The very mass of the Anaconda demands comparison in the survival environment. The Anaconda has a chance----providing, example after individual example, the new Anaconda is better made, more durable, more accurate than S&W or Ruger. Memory recalls how, when CNC machine process got discovered by some gun writers who wore their nose so high in the air if it rained they'd drown, they sang the CNC song Computer Numeric Control was about to bring the best gunmaking ever seen. My late shooting partner Ed Verge and I looked at each other, then drew our sixguns for a workout, Ed’s a Model 57 8-3/8” .41 Mag, mine a Model 29 6-1/2” .44 Mag. Smoke cleared, and old time revolvers slipped back into their water molded skins to gather a few more miles. CNC and CAD Cam are great, but a dummy can’t drive the ship through narrow straights. Freedom Arms could have headed south but, near as I can tell, newest guns handled by this shooter look like back in the Dick Casull and Wayne Baker days. Either one commits to quality... or... they sell out. I’m back to messing’ with grip frames made by our very own Ronnie Wells. Near as I can judge this friend and his powerful conceptualization & crazy attention to detail, CNC is absolutely beautiful----in the hands of TALENT and CREATIVE HONESTY. The artist who isn’t his own worst critic is a dead artist. Lose sight of that and the work takes a dive. Thus, it's a shame to hear a company with means & incredible machinery throws shortcuts at quality. For the hardcore shooter, all he or she wants is an honest shootin' iron. The sharpshooter knows the object of attention is the target. Your sixgun is an INSTRUMENT.... Play it! David Bradshaw In the case of USFA and Freedom Arms, it was mostly true. However, I think the temptation to use CNC technology to cut costs, rather than to produce better guns, was too great for the major manufacturers to ignore. Which also satisfies the ever-present needs of the average consumer to save money above all other concerns. That and satisfy the investors. |
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Post by gnappi on Apr 12, 2023 13:59:43 GMT -5
I for one am happy I never owned a Colt revolver, I don't need more brands to burden my bank account :-)
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Post by Ken O'Neill on Apr 12, 2023 14:50:53 GMT -5
Make mine a 629!
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Post by tentcamper on Apr 14, 2023 6:45:52 GMT -5
I for one am happy I never owned a Colt revolver, I don't need more brands to burden my bank account :-) Excellent way to put it. I've always been a Ruger guy but recently acquired a Smith or two. Or three... I'm hoping I can fend off the Colt addiction but that Anaconda sure looks enticing. |
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Post by Yetiman on May 30, 2023 17:57:02 GMT -5
I need to stop reading these threads... bought a 6" Anaconda 2 hours ago, and already ordered Harrisson sights for it and calling Heffron tomorrow... Here we go !
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Post by rangersedge on May 30, 2023 20:49:01 GMT -5
Bet you'll like your new Anaconda.
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Post by bigbore5 on May 30, 2023 21:09:17 GMT -5
I've shot the Anaconda side by side with the 629. Accuracy was a wash between them. The Colts single action trigger beat the Smith's feel, but not by much. The Smith came out on top double action. The Anaconda felt and looks much stronger especially the lock up and cylinder. The barrel tenon is also beefier. The Smith felt quicker to transition targets, but the weight of the Anaconda sped up recoil recovery.
Basically it's a wash between them.
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Post by bradshaw on May 31, 2023 6:37:38 GMT -5
Jerry Moran tells me the BOLT (aka STOP) new Colt Anaconda copies the Smith & Wesson CYLINDER STOP. “But weaker,” says Moran. When Jetty first sent me photos of the new Python, I was alarmed to see it incorporates the S&W stop. (Colt calls it BOLT; S&W calls it STOP or CYLINDER STOP; Ruger calls it CYLINDER LATCH.)
Its lightly sprung S&W stop works fine with most cartridges, but is the Achilles tendon in Smith’s .44 Magnum. This shooter articulated this problem as “cylinder float" in the Model 29. which concern fell on deaf ears at the factory for a year. Cylinder float is failure of the stop to lock the cylinder throughout the discharge & recoil cycle. Symptoms include: 1) backward rotation of cylinder via barrel torque, 2) secondary primer indent or secondary indent on case head, 3) failure to carry-up next chamber, 4) two shots on one pull of the trigger, 5) multiple shots on one pull of the trigger. (Note: symptoms don’t include mechanical description of cylinder float.)
S&W eventually took action in the guise of “Enhancements.” Colt had much stronger cylinder lock-up in its traditional mechanism, which includes the famed New Service and Python. Given what we know, or should know, today it is anachronistic fall back on the S&W stop in a “new” revolver. Is my guess, Colt eliminated its old bolt to greatly reduce, or eliminate, labor intensive, talent rich hand fitting. One need only look the Ruger Redhawk to see the strongest DA cylinder latch in the business. It turned the S&W concept into a bank vault.
David Bradshaw
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Post by bigbore5 on May 31, 2023 6:53:04 GMT -5
Me? I'm just going to buy the Ruger. Use the money I saved to send it to a proper smith for refinement to suit me.
That way I have a stronger, more durable firearm with the action and trigger better than the other two for the same money.
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